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  • #16
    Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

    SIA - exact meaning - Seriously Impacted Assholes (company not people with badges)

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    • #17
      Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

      Anywayyyy

      Back to tactics...
      Sandy -- Rogue Recon

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Reaver View Post
        Yeah mate, as your name suggests, I wanna go into the RAFMP (become a snowdrop myself) and have taken it upon myself to gain further SIA qualifications.

        Haha forgot to get rid of that a while ago.
        Thanks for pointing that one out

        And yes sparrowhawk.... Thanks... :L
        Let me know if you want info on joining, the cp element etc
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        Originally posted by Savaged Wolf


        Snowdrop - hes quiet but always there ! like a jedi

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Snowdrop View Post
          Let me know if you want info on joining, the cp element etc
          As in the tactical provost wing? (no.2 sqn) hell yes.
          But I need to wait until march for the recruiting to open.
          Shall we continue further details by PM?
          Sandy -- Rogue Recon

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          • #20
            Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

            how would you protect a VIP in a built up environment...ie moving from an entry point,through a building with several rooms and corridors which can all be flanked, to an extraction point?
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            • #21
              Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

              oooh.
              niiice one...

              how many lads do i have to play with?
              (dont take that weirdly)
              Sandy -- Rogue Recon

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              • #22
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                lets say eight....or maybe more, ok ten, nice round number
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                • #23
                  Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

                  Sweet.

                  Righto. Straight away, we'd (personal set up here) have 3 around the VIP at all times (one on point and the rest covering the side arcs.) a fourth member will be tabbing back and forth between the VIP and covering the rear (seeing as we are movin through buildings in a hostile environment, enemy's could follow the team in.
                  That would be the four responsible for direct contacts to the VIP. next we'd have a secondary detachment of another four... One would be tail end Charlie permanently (joined by the fourth VIP detail now and again to reinforce)
                  The other three will move through, breach and clear rooms as per usual. They will fall back to a closer position to the VIP once outdoors. The remaining two I've left out may be a specialist unit such as a sniper pair, who, once outdoors will provide overwatch and recce the road ahead and neutralise any threat if possible without major engagement.

                  That was all done without planning... LOVE CP WORK!!!
                  Sandy -- Rogue Recon

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                  • #24
                    Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

                    Originally posted by Reaver View Post
                    Sweet.

                    Righto. Straight away, we'd (personal set up here) have 3 around the VIP at all times (one on point and the rest covering the side arcs.) a fourth member will be tabbing back and forth between the VIP and covering the rear (seeing as we are movin through buildings in a hostile environment, enemy's could follow the team in.
                    That would be the four responsible for direct contacts to the VIP. next we'd have a secondary detachment of another four... One would be tail end Charlie permanently (joined by the fourth VIP detail now and again to reinforce)
                    The other three will move through, breach and clear rooms as per usual. They will fall back to a closer position to the VIP once outdoors. The remaining two I've left out may be a specialist unit such as a sniper pair, who, once outdoors will provide overwatch and recce the road ahead and neutralise any threat if possible without major engagement.

                    That was all done without planning... LOVE CP WORK!!!
                    Then sit around for the next 8 hours whilst the principal does his work, has meetings etc, then repeat!!!
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                    Originally posted by Savaged Wolf


                    Snowdrop - hes quiet but always there ! like a jedi

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                    • #25
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                      Crumbs!

                      Wouldn't consider it. Primary would be left with 3 in a safe zone or not even present, the team would have the building clear and safe before the cash cow even finished his toast and daily sport.
                      Problems? Problems? There is no problem I cannot solve with this...

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                      • #26
                        Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

                        when I have done it on site we had a small team on distraction duty going through making noise doing vip protection badly shouting out the "vip" location etc to split the opposition.

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by Reaver View Post
                          haha nice one woody.
                          would result in a rather pissed off VIP when they come round, but has been known to be done on 'special' occasions.

                          and crasstoe, yep... its people like you which makes me shit myself :D
                          but yeah, the formation can be filled or 'doubled up' so that any incoming fire takes away 'layers' of protection so to speak, so there could be a diamond within a diamond making it harder to hit the VIP through both sustained fire and and accurate marksmanship.

                          just an example haha

                          look end of the day ill handle security... they handle my payment

                          as when i met the SAS ledge that was Mac he said you don't know how slow or unfit they are.
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                          • #28
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                            Haha very true.
                            R.I.P mac.

                            Last time I was at first and only's the mall, we had to move a VIP (John conner - for those of you who know the mall ) through a long (unlit) corridor and we knew there were enemys engaging friendlies up ahead, but also some blue on blue too. We couldn't push back because we had just bugged out across the malls Main floor and lost two men and didn't want to risk the VIP so we pushed forward and cleared rooms as we went. Looking back, we were using the chevron or diamond formation. It worked a dream, allowing the man on point to drop to his buckle and lay down fire while the two on the left and right flanks (and the respective VIP) threw themselves into a doorway. Obviously such a formation in such a tight space isnt the best of ideas, but point had a maruzen GBB shotgun and tail end Charlie was there with his ak, and such a noise was enough to put anyone's heads down.
                            Haha a tried and tested method. Highly recommend it... But in larger spaces.
                            Sandy -- Rogue Recon

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Black Templar View Post
                              Crumbs!

                              Wouldn't consider it. Primary would be left with 3 in a safe zone or not even present, the team would have the building clear and safe before the cash cow even finished his toast and daily sport.
                              Ahhh well said old boy............ scout the route..... clear the route.......keep it sterile..... then move through it!

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                              • #30
                                Re: Close protection detail - your experiences?

                                That'll all be done if your exfill isn't hot.
                                I.e. The prefferable scenario.

                                But yeah, plain and simple is the way forward and your idea is the one actually used the most by CP teams
                                Like it.
                                Sandy -- Rogue Recon

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