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    Hey
    I want to buy a black rifle from this forums classified section but I don't have a UKARA licence
    However I am a regular airsofter
    Is that a valid defence or do I HAVE to have a UKARA to buy a black gun?

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    Re: Buying without UKARA

    No such thing as a UKARA 'license.'

    In order for someone to sell a RIF to you they need to create a defence against prosecution for themselves. You can provide this defence for them by showing them that you are over 18 and somehow assuring them that you intend to use the RIF for airsoft at a site with third party liability insurance. Being on the UKARA database is the easiest way to do this, but is not the only way. If you could show the seller that you have membership to a site, which they could then confirm, they may chose to accept that as forming their defence, but it's up to them since they're the one who is breaking the law and could potentially end up in trouble.
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    • #3
      Re: Buying without UKARA

      If you're a regular airsofter then you probably visit at least 1 site fairly regular? Are you know there? If so, put the seller in contact with the site.
      Originally posted by Nun-Chuck
      I'm down every games day at EAG buddy just give me a shout and I'll whip it out, can have a squeeze too if you like.
      Originally posted by deanfirst
      why not use zeroone's escort service?

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      • #4
        Re: Buying without UKARA

        Strange, in another thread you were wanting to sell a "black rifle" because you do not have a "licence" for it.

        Originally posted by AK_dog View Post
        Hey
        I want to buy a black rifle from this forums classified section but I don't have a UKARA licence
        However I am a regular airsofter
        Is that a valid defence or do I HAVE to have a UKARA to buy a black gun?

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        • #5
          Re: Buying without UKARA

          Is it half term already?

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          • #6
            Re: Buying without UKARA

            http://forums.zeroin.co.uk/showthrea...-Sale-problems

            Looks likely
            Originally posted by Nun-Chuck
            I'm down every games day at EAG buddy just give me a shout and I'll whip it out, can have a squeeze too if you like.
            Originally posted by deanfirst
            why not use zeroone's escort service?

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            • #7
              Re: Buying without UKARA

              My other post was a genuine question
              This was just for info for future reference

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              • #8
                Re: Buying without UKARA

                Originally posted by AK_dog View Post
                My other post was a genuine question
                This was just for info for future reference
                Of course it was.
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                • #9
                  Re: Buying without UKARA

                  So we went from
                  "Hey
                  I want to buy a black rifle from this forums classified section but I don't have a UKARA licence"
                  To
                  "This was just for info for future reference"

                  I certainly hope you didnt contact the seller of this 'black rifle in the forums classifieds', otherwise he may get pretty pissy at waiting for a sale sometime in the ' future'.

                  Roll on back to school time.
                  Originally Posted by PureSilver
                  "Complaining that it's shit because it's more complicated and less reliable than an AEG is like complaining that sex is shit because it's much messier than masturbating into a sock."

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                  • #10
                    Re: Buying without UKARA

                    Anyway
                    On my other thread the fact that it was black was one of the reasons, not the only reason
                    I just want to get a better gun and didn't know if I was going to have any problems selling it
                    I then just wanted to know if there was anyway I could buy a black gun without becoming a member at any site and not being in the UKARA database
                    But I see that there isn't really any way for me to do that

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                    • #11
                      Re: Buying without UKARA

                      Someone who is on the database or who has a defence can buy it and give it to you as a gift.

                      Originally posted by AK_dog View Post
                      Anyway
                      On my other thread the fact that it was black was one of the reasons, not the only reason
                      I just want to get a better gun and didn't know if I was going to have any problems selling it
                      I then just wanted to know if there was anyway I could buy a black gun without becoming a member at any site and not being in the UKARA database
                      But I see that there isn't really any way for me to do that

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                      • #12
                        Re: Buying without UKARA

                        You do not need to become a 'member' of a site, they just need to be willing to vouch for the fact that you are a regular skirmisher. Unless you play at many different sites, your regular site should have a log of your attendance, and therefore should be willing to back you. As Fizzy said, just give the seller the contact details so they can confirm you play there.
                        "Unleash just one load into the enemy
                        and be ready to go again straight
                        away... and that doesn't happen very
                        often does it lads!" - ZeroOne

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                        • #13
                          Re: Buying without UKARA

                          Okay
                          Thanks guys

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                          • #14
                            Re: Buying without UKARA

                            If only there was somewhere you could check the law.....

                            I don't know, maybe... The violent crimes reduction act maybe.

                            http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/36

                            Read through up to and including section 41. Remember, UKARA registration is only ONE of several ways to prove a defence.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Buying without UKARA

                              ^ The problem there is that the defence which is applicable to airsoft doesn't feature in the VCRA.
                              102nd Chairborne Rangers - "Intelluctus VCRAus recte"

                              Keyboard Commando - "He who argues until the other person gives up and goes away wins"

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