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    Seen floating around through social media and saw these.
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    Personally, more excited for the KSG, might have to make it my first shotgun.
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    Default Re: TM KSG and M40A5

    I've already told my mrs I may not be wearing a suit to our wedding in exchange for a KSG. Or shoes for the WE M712

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    100% the KSG!!!!
    It's a pile o crap in RL but it's sexy as hell

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    tm KSG going to be released in september, according to a certain japanese/french retailer. already got mine reserved, who else has?

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    I was so looking forward to the M40A5. Until a certain place posted a video about it, why the hell are TM copying stuff off ares -.-

    Ares style feed tube after the mag, the system that never worked reliably for Ares, not a hell of a lot that can be done to it to make it better, and I highly doubt even TM can make that work flawlessly.
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    Ares?

    There is the VFC one which is lush. Didn't realize area made one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantKiwi View Post
    I was so looking forward to the M40A5. Until a certain place posted a video about it, why the hell are TM copying stuff off ares -.-

    Ares style feed tube after the mag, the system that never worked reliably for Ares, not a hell of a lot that can be done to it to make it better, and I highly doubt even TM can make that work flawlessly.
    I saw the same video and if I was even considering an M40 before I'm certainly not now. What an odd system, talk about Marui trying to reinvent the wheel.
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    Default Re: TM KSG and M40A5

    TM did similar with the L96

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    One of the worst ancient Egyptian curses you can bestow is to compare an Airsoft company to Ares.
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    The price on the M40a5 really winds me up.

    The gun is 34 800 in JPN. which is $300 , or £244. and they are trying to charge £390-450 currently. Now I don't know if that's because its a very new gun and that's the " get it early " price.

    If so I may seriously consider giving it a miss as that price is ridiculous imho

    Hopefully it'll drop !

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    If you were to import yourself you'd be looking at just a tad under £400, the companies do have to make a profit after all!

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebite View Post
    The price on the M40a5 really winds me up.

    The gun is 34 800 in JPN. which is $300 , or £244. and they are trying to charge £390-450 currently. Now I don't know if that's because its a very new gun and that's the " get it early " price.

    If so I may seriously consider giving it a miss as that price is ridiculous imho

    Hopefully it'll drop !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ells View Post
    If you were to import yourself you'd be looking at just a tad under £400, the companies do have to make a profit after all!
    Exactly, it's not at all helped that GBP sucks against JPY vs 12 months ago.
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    Not sure where you guys have been looking but the figures I have seen indicate it would be a lot cheaper than that all in to get it imported to my door. Averaging importing fees/postage at £60 that is

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    take value of item and add shipping (probably around £60)

    take that total and add duty

    take that total and add VAT based on total amount

    add shipper handling fee

    you are usually looking at similar price to UK within £20 either way

    Just checked , current price from Japan in GBP is £275.92 (based on the yen price you quoted)

    so with shipping approx £325

    add import tax and vat is approximately £418.81

    add shipper handling fee of at least £14.95 and you get a total of

    £433.76 so more expensive than Uk prices i've seen

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    Yep, unless you get lucky, and don't get charged import duty/VAT (unlikely on a large parcel) then if you make a saving, it's probably going to be minimal, considering the exchange rate being what it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st commando View Post
    take value of item and add shipping (probably around £60)

    take that total and add duty

    take that total and add VAT based on total amount

    add shipper handling fee

    you are usually looking at similar price to UK within £20 either way

    Just checked , current price from Japan in GBP is £275.92 (based on the yen price you quoted)

    so with shipping approx £325

    add import tax and vat is approximately £418.81

    add shipper handling fee of at least £14.95 and you get a total of

    £433.76 so more expensive than Uk prices i've seen
    34,800 yen is coming out at £248 for me
    You think import duty and vat is around £90? I don't think it'll be that high. Maybe £30-£50 it won't be a huge parcel or heavy. I imported some heavy Ice hockey skates not too long ago and didn't cost much at all

    My approximates are:
    £250 for gun
    £300 posted
    £340 import fees
    So £340-£380 being realistic

    Thats between ££60-£80 quid saved which Is a substantial saving in my eyes and worth it.

    Its all subjective with money but I wouldn't want to pay £400+ for a stock spring sniper unless it was very special and I like the Marui M40a5 but considering its got a new unproven feeding system, short stroke and smaller cylinder one has to ask is it really worth that money?

    We will see being honest I would love to own one but I field a Vsr10 and L96 both upgraded and both by Marui so will wait and see how good it is when its been honestly reviewed by known Youtubers and on forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebite View Post
    34,800 yen is coming out at £248 for me
    That's because you're using Google's exchange rate, and not the rate the banks/PayPal would give you

    If you were to order JPY right now from the Post Office, you're looking at £290ish
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    I'm using a professional up to the last few minutes exchange rate and using the duty and import calculations that I use everyday to accurately calculate importing for business , rather than taking a guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st commando View Post
    I'm using a professional up to the last few minutes exchange rate
    Me too, but good luck getting these rates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzy View Post
    That's because you're using Google's exchange rate, and not the rate the banks/PayPal would give you

    If you were to order JPY right now from the Post Office, you're looking at £290ish
    Why is there a difference? you would have thought considering how widely used and big google is it would be a very accurate and real time exchange rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1st commando View Post
    I'm using a professional up to the last few minutes exchange rate and using the duty and import calculations that I use everyday to accurately calculate importing for business , rather than taking a guess
    No need to come across ungentlemanly about it. If you refer to your earlier reply you actually stated you were using approximates.

    As I previously mentioned I own two marui spring snipers so am in no rush or need to purchase the m40a5. Once its been genuinely reviewed and tested i'll consider purchasing and looking more deeply into importing it to see if I can save ££

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzy View Post
    Me too, but good luck getting these rates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebite View Post
    Why is there a difference? you would have thought considering how widely used and big google is it would be a very accurate and real time exchange rate.
    Various reasons. Prices on Google are delayed by approximately 15 minutes I believe. Mostly to do with the fact traders trade on live data and (potentially) make large amounts of money on trading currencies (amongst other things)

    SO, any data vendors (Reuters/Bloomberg/etc) charge large amounts of money for live data


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    Not trying to be ungentlemanly at all , just explaining the possible reasons why Google exchange rate and your tax estimation may differ considerably

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzy View Post
    Various reasons. Prices on Google are delayed by approximately 15 minutes I believe. Mostly to do with the fact traders trade on live data and (potentially) make large amounts of money on trading currencies (amongst other things)

    SO, any data vendors (Reuters/Bloomberg/etc) charge large amounts of money for live data





    Couldn't say...
    Just checked three exchange rate sites ( from google so pinch of salt lol ) and x2 came out at £244 the other at £260.

    When ordering off a JPN or US site wont they tell you the exchange rate price anyway or am I mistaken?



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    But as I said earlier, won't get the exchange rates you see online, unless you're looking directly at places that sell currency

    Again, as I said earlier, you can order 38500 Yen from the Post Office, and it will cost you £290.38

    If you were to pay xxxxx HK retailer via PayPal or international bank transfer, expect it to be even more £££

    Why? Well because these places are making money off you, which is why you won't get close to the 140 rate I posted. The Post Office were offering 132 Yen to the Pound
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzy View Post
    But as I said earlier, won't get the exchange rates you see online, unless you're looking directly at places that sell currency

    Again, as I said earlier, you can order 38500 Yen from the Post Office, and it will cost you £290.38

    If you were to pay xxxxx HK retailer via PayPal or international bank transfer, expect it to be even more £££

    Why? Well because these places are making money off you, which is why you won't get close to the 140 rate I posted. The Post Office were offering 132 Yen to the Pound
    Going to have to bite the bullet or give it a miss unless the rate gets better and stabilises and that's highly unlikely by spring/early summer

    Can't blame one for trying to save money though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st commando View Post
    Not trying to be ungentlemanly at all , just explaining the possible reasons why Google exchange rate and your tax estimation may differ considerably
    Fair enough buddy will have to wait and see what happens !

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