May be going for this SAS Setup.

[Jay8]

Re: May be going for this SAS Setup.

I might be wrong on this, not an expert on US stuff, but aren't the Green Berets United States Army SF? To designate being Army opposed to just United States Special Forces. I understood USSF to be a casual catch-all, similar to SOF as an abbrieviation, to denote tho whole lot, for all the services, I wasn't aware USSF had an actual defined meaning? Might be wrong though - but either way, SAS/SBS are UKSF, and the OPs pic isn't a million miles off the TFB era look, but would need several changes to be called UKSF.

[Nun-Chuck]

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What I'm saying is. These pictures posted are close to UK special forces. The SF scene tend to mix up a lot of there camo. SAS/SBS are nothing like this lol
Take USSF and compare them to seals. (Although seals are the states 'elite' version of there military. Just using that comparison for an example

There are so many things wrong with this statement I'm genuinely not sure where to start.

The pictures I posted are of SFSG. While not SAS/SBS, there are dozens of photographs of SAS and SBS personnel mixing camouflage. (Task force black era, modern, older). If anything I'd say there are far more pictures of them mixing camo than wearing matching sets.

Comparing USSF to seals?? WTF has that got to do with anything?? USSF (green berets) and SEALS are both 'Tier 1' units (though I hate using that Tier 1 term it's the easiest way of breaking it down). The SEALS are part of the US navy and have their own supply chain, procurement process and organization, so of course their kit is different. Comparing either unit to SFSG or SAS/SBS is ridiculous.

[Jay8]

Re: May be going for this SAS Setup.

What I'm saying is. These pictures posted are close to UK special forces. The SF scene tend to mix up a lot of there camo. SAS/SBS are nothing like this lol
Take USSF and compare them to seals. (Although seals are the states 'elite' version of there military. Just using that comparison for an example

Codswallop - in short...

What are the SAS/SBS if not special forces? USSF includes SEALs in much the same way. United States Special Forces will include all sorts of units, including SEALs, MARSOC, Army SF etc - it's a general descriptor, as is UKSF, of a number of defined units under a command, from different branches of the military. SEALs are no more 'elite' than many others, including Rangers, Green Berets, CAG etc - they all perform different roles, and SEALs isn't just DEVGRU...

The pictures are closer to SFSG than anything, but still aren't really a good representation of any unit. There is however a UKSF 'feel' to it that with some tweaking of kit could be a good impression of a specific unit/era.

[Rifleman93]

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By 'SF scene' are you talking about SFSG or all the units under DSF?

The brfs mixed their cam up a few years ago (certainly h10)

[Elliott Crawford]

What?

What I'm saying is. These pictures posted are close to UK special forces. The SF scene tend to mix up a lot of there camo. SAS/SBS are nothing like this lol
Take USSF and compare them to seals. (Although seals are the states 'elite' version of there military. Just using that comparison for an example

[Jay8]

Re: May be going for this SAS Setup.

Agreed - though this one isn't a million miles off...

http://www.eliteukforces.info/images...port-group.jpg

Still need a RAV and the right helmet setup though.

[madwelshman]

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As Abbadon said, I doubt Barbies boyfriend is a highly accurate loadout reference....

[Abbadon101]

Re: May be going for this SAS Setup.

Still pretty inaccurate either way.

Our guys are issued 2000's not 2002's, the only bolt on NVG mounts I am aware are issued are the bolt on PVS-21 mount and the VAS shroud. Even back when SFSG were using L85's they were wearing RAV's and Crye kit. And at no point have our guys ever used 14.5" carbines.

This looks like the got the British Squadie action figure, gave him and M4 and a Lid from the USSF action figure and poped him in a pair of "I see you" trousers to make him look like the TFB pictures a little bit.

[rubi-tong]

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I think he meant SFSG? Lol

[Abbadon101]

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Defiantly not sas closer to SF

What?

[Elliott Crawford]

Defiantly not sas closer to SF

[Nun-Chuck]

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These aren't too far off. ACU trousers and DPM smock are a perfectly acceptable camo combination with a Mich 2000. You just want to sort the rig and gun, and you're sorted.

[Jay8]

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Rig wise, you could have a paraclete RAV, Paraclete SOHPC Blackhawk STRIKE carrier, Kahndahar style carrier LBT 6094 or a TYR Pico

A PVS21 style mount on the mich 2000 would make it much more noticeable as a UKSF load out to people, however it has came out that they are using PVS15s so a more appropriate mount may be acceptable if you were going for a more recent kit timeframe, however if you were I would advise bringing some crye AC multicam combats into the mix

Helmet wise a 2000,2001 and Crye Airframes are acceptable


Wouldn't bother with the leg rig mate, but if you are adamant on having one I would go for one of Blackhawks offerings

Glove wise Oakleys or SOLAGs however that is a little more personal preference


But a l119a1 is certainly needed to show that it is a UKSF load out, however a fully spec'd SA80 is acceptable for SFSG impressions

Murta got the basics for a UKSF loadout pretty spot on there. Also add the Paraclete SOHPC as an acceptable plate carrier and OpsCore lids. The one on the model is a MICH 2000 - I would google Task Force Black and Special Forces Support Group - will give you reference material that has the 'feel' of that model but is more legit as a UKSF impression. If you don't care about calling it UKSF though, you could put that loadout together and it'll still look pretty cool.

I wouldn't start mixing loads of different eras of kit though, it can look confused. Like a RAV+Multicam works, but a RAV+DDPM+Multicam+OpsCore+SA80 won't look cohesive as an impression - an Osprey and an OpsCore as you were thinking on would look weird imo. Try and peg a look and stick to that sorta feel, even if more modern/older kit also appeals. Or run two different era loadouts from the same 'base' of gear.

[Trigger]

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Dont go for a SAS desert windproof smock believe it or not its the same as a normal desert smock just with a loads of sale hype!

Plus iv never seen any SF look like that!

[murta369]

Re: May be going for this SAS Setup.

Rig wise, you could have a paraclete RAV, Paraclete SOHPC Blackhawk STRIKE carrier, Kahndahar style carrier LBT 6094 or a TYR Pico

A PVS21 style mount on the mich 2000 would make it much more noticeable as a UKSF load out to people, however it has came out that they are using PVS15s so a more appropriate mount may be acceptable if you were going for a more recent kit timeframe, however if you were I would advise bringing some crye AC multicam combats into the mix

Helmet wise a 2000,2001 and Crye Airframes are acceptable


Wouldn't bother with the leg rig mate, but if you are adamant on having one I would go for one of Blackhawks offerings

Glove wise Oakleys or SOLAGs however that is a little more personal preference


But a l119a1 is certainly needed to show that it is a UKSF load out, however a fully spec'd SA80 is acceptable for SFSG impressions