Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

[propaintballa]

Re: Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

Yeh... Wtf, i dont think i would spend that much just to make the triggle pull lighter :S

[Kitten]

Re: Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

Hmm well if you have ever actually seen

I dont see why you constantly seem to have an arguementative attitude about most things you talk about on here kitten? someone asks for advice you had a pop at me, someone complemented your AEG picture you had a pop then..and now this? Maybe you should drop the attitude as appart from the odd few we are all here to help and happy to do it.

Sorry Leon, im just annoyed with the attitude.... It wasnt you... I havent seen enough of your posts to see you defend them... I was going off that post, in a standalone fashion.... And whats this pop i had at someone for complementing my aeg? I think you will find it was a joke if anything... and both parties took it as such...? *shrugs*

keeper of secrets: Well people do have bad experiences, but ive owned 3 warrior l96s... one very early one, and two subsiquent, all three excelent with the right hands on them, and the right user.... The number of warrior l96s i have had to ajust at my local site for users... Hardly anyone knows how to set up a sniper rifle and complain when its not 'awesome like that big one that sniper person has that cost 600£' They can be, with the right hands.

Your 249.... potentially a cascade failure because you didnt fix some of the early known issues, or just got a lemmon, this happens.... As for the dboys m4s... does the gunsmith know what batteries they got used on? the only dboys i saw melt was on a lipo...

and a zero trigger does a lot more than trigger pull.... It extends your rifles life span. It takes away the plastic casing of the seer box and trigger housing, and makes it metal, reducing the warriors biggest flaw... or potential flaw. It also reduces wear on the cylinder underside, and makes the lock off more secure when cocked. Nice bit of kit, not NECESERY, but deffiantely something id get if i intended to keep it and use it more than a a yearsworth...

[propaintballa]

Re: Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

I see... Im not sure how long i will have it, i probably will keep it tbh, only really just started airsoft.

[The Keeper of Secrets]

Re: Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

8.4s in the M4s. As to the 249, the problem was that one of the gears was miscast, shredding everything. But you'd never get that in a stock Marui. That is my point. It is enough to make me avoid the clones, obviously you have a different view. Fine, don't try and change mine.

[Wargasm]

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Argh... I cba to import really : (

Haha Fair nuff mate, but it is really easy, most stateside airsoft stores take paypal and delivery is barely more than a week.
Bare in mind you may have to pay import tax but having been caught with this only twice in my life can't say you should worry too much. Its running at 500fps? then seriously do get a tightbore either way!

This is from a dude called The Crimson Falcon on another forum, who clearly has far to much time to spend on airsoft hope it convinces you!

"EdGI Custom 6.01mm Bull Barrel (Also has 6.00mm Bull Barrels available)

Build Material: Brass.
Length: 435mm.
Thickness: Bull barrel thickness.
Break-in Period? No.
Accuracy at 150 feet: Approximately 1.5" on average, .75" on best grouping.
Tolerances: Very high quality. Rank 1 out of 5. +/1 .0012
Crowning? Yes, very good quality job.
Affordability: Low. Average cost is 40+52 shipping (USD), so this barrel is more expensive than most of the other alternatives, excepting the PDI.
Brief Synopsis: The EdGI barrel is designed specifically for the JG BAR-10, although it will fit in the VSR-10 as well. You can get EdGI barrels by emailing him at [email protected]. Cost runs around 35-40, and shipping is 52 via FedEX from the Philippines. EdGI barrels are unique because they are bull barrels; that is, they are thicker than any other aftermarket barrel on the market. They also include a number of features. EdGI barrels are among the best barrels you can buy for the VSR, in part because they're thicker, and hence suffer less from vibrations. EdGI also offers ported barrels, which are even more accurate. The crowning on the barrel is very nice, and the interior is well-polished, and does not require a break-in period.

DBCustom 6.01mm Barrel

Build Material: Brass.
Length: 430mm.
Thickness: Slightly more than standard thickness.
Break-in Period? Yes (1000 rounds)
Accuracy at 150 feet: Approximately 2.7" on average, 1.3" on best grouping.
Tolerances: Very high quality. Rank 2 out of 5. +/- 0.0015
Crowning? No, it's straight cut.
Affordability: Medium. Average cost is 60 USD shipped, so this barrel is the most affordable high-quality 6.01mm barrel.
Brief Synopsis: The DBCustom barrels are unique in that they are universally cut, and can fit most AEG's, the VSR and it's full clones, the AGM MP001, and the UTG M324/DE M50. They are very good quality, and are the most affordable of the 6.01mm barrels. The owners are very knowledgeable and friendly, and they have among the very best customer service of any company that I have ever dealt with. The one fault I find with their barrels is that they aren't polished, and have minor imperfections in the barrel that throw off accuracy until they've been broken in. Accuracy is still superb, and these are probably the best option for an airsofter who has a budget, but wants the best possible performance for the money. In terms of sheer value per dollar, it's hard to beat a DBC barrel, and the universal cut makes them very nice. The VSR barrel will NOT fit the Tanaka M700/M40/M24, sadly, so I'll be buying another from them soon.

PDI 6.01mm Barrel

Build Material: Steel.
Length: 555mm.
Thickness: Slightly more than standard thickness.
Break-in Period? No.
Accuracy at 150 feet: Approximately 1.6" on average, 1.1" on best grouping.
Tolerances: Highest quality, laser cut steel. Rank 1 out of 5.
Crowning? Yes.
Affordability: Very low. Average cost is 155 USD shipped, so this barrel is the most expensive tightbore barrel.
Brief Synopsis: PDI barrels are the most expensive barrels, and are very high quality. They are laser-cut cold tempered steel, with the best tolerances of any barrel, but do not have any other special features like DBC or EdGI barrels. If you have the money, and you want the absolute best quality barrel that will not scratch easily, and will preserve its groupings, go PDI. They're quite expensive, but very reliable.

Laylax 6.03mm Barrel

Build Material: Steel.
Length: 303mm (GSPEC) or 430mm (RS/PS).
Thickness: Standard thickness.
Break-in Period? No.
Accuracy at 150 feet: Approximately 4.0" on average, 3.1" on best grouping.
Tolerances: Highest quality, laser cut steel. Rank 4 out of 5.
Crowning? Yes.
Affordability: Medium to high. Average cost is 45 USD shipped, so this barrel is one of the cheaper tightbore barrels.
Brief Synopsis: Laylax barrels are good choices for those on a budget, but who want decent accuracy. They're not the best, but the steel construction won't scratch, and they are nicely crowned.

Deepfire 6.02mm Barrel

Build Material: ?
Length: 430mm
Thickness: Standard thickness.
Break-in Period? No.
Accuracy at 150 feet: ?
Tolerances: ?
Crowning? ?
Affordability: High. Average cost is 35 USD shipped, so this barrel is the cheapest tightbore barrel.
Brief Synopsis: ?

Tanio Koba Hop-Twist Barrel

Build Material: Steel.
Length: varies.
Thickness: Standard thickness.
Break-in Period? No.
Accuracy at 150 feet: Approximately 1.5" on average, 1" on best grouping.
Tolerances: Highest quality. Rank 1 out of 5.
Crowning? Yes.
Affordability: Medium. Average cost is 75 USD shipped.
Brief Synopsis: Tanio Koba Twist barrels are the barrels for those who have to stay under 1J. They will not work with guns that fire over 360 fps. They have a twisted groove, something like rifling, in the barrel which creates a rotating air cushion around the bb. This keeps the bb stable, and preserves its momentum, allowing staggeringly good range and accuracy out of a low FPS gun. Advantages include faster ROF, lighter bolt pull, and no need for upgrade parts."

[propaintballa]

Re: Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

I see. But it doesnt compare the stock barrel though, that's what i would like to see.

[Wargasm]

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Dude did you seriously just ask that?!
You have the rifle, albeit not the exact same one but nonetheless.

I am aware their are many varaibles in the "accuracy" of a rifle but the above is intended as a guideline you can get a pretty fair representation of its accuracy by going out and trying it.

Even if you can only manage 50ft in your backgarden do some simple workings out....if you cant hit 5inch groupings at 50ft you definately cant hit 5 inch groupings at 150ft etc etc

[Kitten]

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Once again... ignoreing the fact it has a 6.03, and half of those recomdended barrels are vsr specific...

[QUOTE]Advantages include faster ROF, lighter bolt pull, and no need for upgrade parts."[/QUOTE That does make me curious... WHO is this person?

how the HELL does a tightbore make your bolt pull lighter? something entirely dependant on spring? rof? This all seems unrelated to a boltaction...

[Wargasm]

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It matters not if those are VSR specific, it was intended as a guide to show the differences between barrels.

"Tanio Koba Twist barrels are the barrels for those who have to stay under 1J. They will not work with guns that fire over 360 fps."

Therefore you only need a 110sp spring ergo, muchose lighter bolt pull, Jesus do I seriously have to spell everything out.

As I mentioned before the ID of a barrel is not the only factor in the Quality/accuracy of a barrel. Manufacturing tolerances and processes must be accounted for, see the difference between the Edgi 6.01 barrel and the DBC custom barrel both have the same ID.

A standard barrel from a clone gun that costs little more that £100 is not going to be all that good regardless of ID.

[Kitten]

Re: Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

But changing the spring and saying that it now has a lighter bolt pull than a 500 is retarded...

The two wouldnt have different ranges and performance.

Sorry, but what you view as fact is about as relevant as saying 'well a buss is more economical than an oceanliner because it uses less fuel...

And your estimation is wrong. The standard barrels ARE 6.03, and rather good. It simple prooves what retarded inflation is placed on 'big brand' parts.... Ive out performed a 500£ vsr with a stock warrior l96 in the past... in range and accuracy.... he had a PDI in his vsr.... running the same fps near enough, and id hit a target 10m further than him, with tighter groupings from a fixed bench position. I really wish youd do some bloody research before declaring 'its a clone, it shit. I can understand Keepers view... hes had bad experiences... But you have literally no proof or knowlage that it performs worse... just 'well its cheaper, so it must be bad'

[Wargasm]

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The above review is just the same as any other review. One persons experiences and opinions on a particular topic. At no point have I reffered to this as fact.

"But changing the spring and saying that it now has a lighter bolt pull than a 500 is retarded..."

With regards to this comment, when reviewing something it is customary to include the pros and cons of the item. To break down what was being said :
Con: Only works up to 360fps.
Pro: But this means the bolt pull is lighter thus increasing ROF.

"Sorry, but what you view as fact is about as relevant as saying 'well a buss is more economical than an oceanliner because it uses less fuel... "

But still we feel the need to be told that the 1.9 TDI is more fuel econmical than than its petrol equivelent, why? because its a REVIEW!

"The standard barrels ARE 6.03"

At what point did I say they didn't have an ID of 6.03?

"Ive out performed a 500£ vsr with a stock warrior l96 in the past"

I refuse to enter into a "My cock is bigger than yours" or a "My daddy can have your daddy" competition. However accuracy comes down to much more than just barrels. Hop up bucking, hop up unit, how the parts are put together, what bb's to use, how clean the barrel and bucking is, weather conditions, spring,piston and seals, shooting technique and many other factors come into effect.

Needless to say when replacing the Inner barrels on any of my rifles I have noted through numerous target shooting test significant improvements in accuracy.

"I really wish youd do some bloody research before declaring 'its a clone, it shit."

I never did declare a clone is shit, merely that they are built down to a price. Why buy an Audi A3 when underneath its still a VW Golf possibly because; the doors shut more smoothly, it has a better sound system, its quiter, all these things may not seem like alot but they make a difference to some people (not necceseraly me).

About the research thing, No I never research anything! thats why I have a nineball hop up bucking from Hong Kong, BB's from America and Laylax parts from good ole Z1 not to mention numerous homemade mods such as sand filled stocks, shimmed hop up unit etc at the end of the day I don't want to waste my money so I spend a silly amount of time researching the best components (for a resonable price) for my rifle (ooops must STOP my cock is bigger than yours contest).

At the end of the day it seems any sort contradiction to your opinion, however slight seems to set you off like some rampaging bull with the end result of you mashing the keyboard like some raging loonatic. Well at least thats what it seems like from my end of the line.

Anyways I've spent at least 1/2 hour to long on this, so im off to the pub. I await your reply :P
* as you can probably tell by the car comparisons...I like cars!

[Leon_London]

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I would still say that from my experiences with airsoft as a whole, the better after market barrels are going to be better then any barrel you get with a RIF no matter what make it is. It could be a £500 AW .338 or a £90 JG Bar 10, I still say the inner barrels are going to be now where near as good as the after market ones.

[propaintballa]

Re: Recommend Warrior L96 barrel

Now now ladies. :P

Just been at The Rock today... Cant say it was the best "Sniping" experience, really unpredictable shots, wouldnt surprise me if it needs a clean though.