Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

[The Dr]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

Hey
Iv got the full laylax setup in mine, with the PDI hop (normal hop arms which come with it). But with a madbull barrel. This setup is very good and I would suggest it to anyone going all the way.
While the PDI pistons give you different options, there is one piston for the laylax and it works fine all conditions.
I didn't feel too much difference with the Teflon cylinde but I brought the cylinder and piston etc as a set off here.
The PDI hop unit isn't as hard to get setup as people say tbh. Although adjusting it can be a bit of a hassle.
I used madbull shark rubber as it's cheap and easy to get hold of.
The barrel spacers made a great difference, although home made ones are alot cheaper.
So with that setup I can hit the same spot (on a tree) about 50meters away I would say 8-10 shots maybe better.
I have tweaked the rifle to myself.
The scope is the standard scope that comes with the rifle as I see this is efficient enough for airsoft. I do not see the need for big scopes when you are shooting over small distances.
Hope this helps you to make your decision and have fun.
Ric

[joshh1512]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

so why laylax over pdi?

but sounds good to me...

as for the barrel, if i do go for a pdi, is a 6.04 going to be the best diametter, or would 03/05 be better?

If i use the stock trigger mech till it breaks, with say the pdi cylinder set, would that damage the cylinder set when it breaks?

[badas]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

Stick with laylax..... PDI hop unit if you can be assed to setup the hop and pdi barrel or just fit a madbull tightbore into the stock hop unit - minor modding required.

Teflon cylinders don't offer that much of a smoother pull back to suffice the cost of buying one.

I would use the standard trigger mech until it breaks.

You can use a more powerful spring without upgrading the piston and such too.

So really..... you can get a decent shooting L96 for <£60 if you do a madbull barrel and bigger spring.

It's what I do, had 5 L96's firing above 450 and they never died on me and only did a <£60 upgrade and was perfectly happy with the range and accuracy.

Don't go tighter than a 6.03, 6.01 barrel give better range, use a lower rated spring so easier to cock but the accuracy is utter shite.

[joshh1512]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

Hey guys, just picked up a marzuen l96 for 60quid at the weekender just as a little upgrade project, now i've read through the guide in this thread, and that was very helpful , -thanks guard!

Anyway, i'm after some help with which upgrade path/parts to go for... I had a pdi vsr, and had a vaccum piston in it, and it was terrible! Orings came off straight away an snapped, and other problems, now this has steered me away from pdi, but i really do want to give it another go as i have read through numerous forums & threads and it does show that the pdi parts are the better of the two? Am i right in thinking this?

SO if i go for laylax, it may be easier as i could source the parts in the uk, but i do think it may be more expensive? Anyway, this is what i was thinking....

Laylax teflon cylinder - £95
M150 spring - £15
polarstar spring guide - £30
pdi end screw - £15
polarstar piston - £45
laylax cylinder head - £30
zero trigger??? - £120 (or... setpin, trigger+piston sears - £70) which to go for @500fps?
pdi hop unit (will buy high arm too) - £60
pdi 6.04mm 495mm - £90
barrel spacers x4 - £30
Hop rubber??? not sure which to choose (maybe firefly hard?) - £20

So thats what, £600 nearly, which is a fair dosh of money! And i do want it to be good, but the cheaper the better! Now for the pdi setup...

Right, first off i need help with choosing either the VC or HD piston, from what i gather VC just keeps the velocity steady when using a longer barrel yes, so i'll be using a 495mm barrel, so should i go for the hard or vacumm piston? so...

PDI palsonine HDorVC set - £150
PDI vtrigger - £90 or Zerotrigger - £120 (will this be compatible with the cylinder?) or again just go for sears + setpin £70?

pdi spring 7mm or 9mm??? (Think i need 9mm?) - £15
end screw - £15
pdi hop unit + high arm - £60
rubber (ff hard bucking?) - £20
pdi 6.04mm 495mm - £90
4 barrel spacers - £30

So that totals to around, £500 with shipping, which is for the pdi route (which is supposedly better?), so guys, i;m just wondering which route should i be going for to get the best results out of my rifle?!

Couple of questions about the parts i selected too, if i go down the pdi route again, should i go for the HD or VC piston (barrel length is just under 500mm, i want the shots as consistent as possible too!), will i be able to use the laylax zerotrigger with the pdi cylinder? And how is the zerotrigger better than the pdi vtrig, or since the rifle is at 500fps, should i just go for new sears and setpin? I chose the pdi hop unit with 'higharm' to fit, is this better than stock hop/the hexagon unit? I gather the palsonite cylinder is also better than teflon, yes? and if i go for the pdi cylinder set, is it a 13mm spring i need to get for a 9mm guide? And i've chosen possibly the most expensive barrel ever lol, since i've got for a 6.04 i guessed it was a reasonable bore balance, is this the best diametter to chose? And if i went for a 6.01, or a 6.08 how would the results differ? I figured from reading, that the 01 would give more range but less accuracy, whereas the .08 would be more accurate but a fair bit less range? Also, i need the pdi endscrew don't i as i need to remove the cokcing piece?

Alright guys, sorry if i've asked too many questions, just wanna make sure this build is perfect compared to my pdi vsr that wasn't too great which i spent a bomb on...

Thanks! Josh.

[TheChef]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

erm Rohan is just a spambot, it just takes snippets from other peoples replies, have a look, it copies word for word what other people have said.

[guard-sniper87]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

And all thatwas covered in my front page ........

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

The range on the stock rifle with .20g bb's will be around 45-50m without accuracy.
The hop unit is failry consistant for the type of unit and the adjustment set up that it has been given, from fully off and fully on with a heavier more stable ammo selection , you can tweak the stock unit for the range of about 35-42m fairly accurately but with a wide spread of shots. Vulcan get the pss96 spring as will slip right in without needing to buy a new sized spring guide and pistol etc

[guard-sniper87]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

Tercel type 96

yeah all parts from aps-2 and pss96 fit

the tercel is a clone of the warrior/mauser/well/utg etc etc

[acheekymonkeyuk]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

I have seen the Tercel L96, anyone know if these are compatible with type96 upgrades

[guard-sniper87]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

It will

But then you have to change to the aps piston and spring guide!!

[Sabbath]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

So does that spring not fit the l96?

[guard-sniper87]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

There a few hk sites that have a new pdi/raven sear set in for type 96 rifles

Also there are loads of places that sell springs just don't go over a 460fps spring as other upgrades and tweaks will up the fps

[The Dr]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

Yo dude
I'll send you an email of where to get a spring you may need a new spring guide as well as the upgraded springs are larger size as well.
Polar sears are rare as get some laylax or PDI ones.
Ric

Edit: that one should work

[Sabbath]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

http://www.zerooneairsoft.com/produc...oducts_id=3673

Would this spring fit a maruzen l96? Can't seem to find anywhere with pss96 springs

Also i can't seem to find any sears. Those polar ones mentioned i can't even find on the products website?

[MilataryMupet]

Re: Upgrade guide Based on Maruzen type 96

does anyone know what type of spring guide i would need for a warrior 9mm or 7mm?
also as im starting to upgrade im gonna by it all at once
ive been struggling to find a piston and have noticed some sights say the piston it with out the piston head
does anyone know if a
guarder Ultra Light Aluminum Piston needs a piston head
one more thing can i mix between brands like the guarder piston and laylax everything else?

cheers
MM