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Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
30 April, 2012, 02:29
As the title says it's only a small quick question.
Am I allowed to carry around my multi-tool in a game? When I say carry I mean in a pouch on my vest in case that wasn't clear.
I've seen a few warnings about them, plus the sites "no blades rule" but I wasn't entirely sure so I thought I'd clear it up and ask.
I don't plan on whipping it out and throwing it at people during a game, It's just I'd rather have it and not need it... You know the rest.
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30 April, 2012, 02:38
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
As a marshal at GZW I can tell you multi tools are allowed just not big blades etc.
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30 April, 2012, 02:42
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
Right, that's all I needed to know.
Cheers.
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30 April, 2012, 05:21
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
As a First and Only marshal I would not have any problem with someone having a multitool on their person at the sites I marshal at. We do have a no live blade knives policy for obvious reasons but a multitool would be fine.
It is a pocket tool for fixing things. Use it responsibly and there would be no problem as far as I am concerned.
I would point out though that you can buy multi tools with no blades in them. So if you really wanted to carry such a tool, buy one of those.
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30 April, 2012, 11:59
I always have my leatherman on me at a game, i mean on saturday i had my g36 in bits mid game.
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30 April, 2012, 12:11
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
As above ^^^^
I always carry a multitool around with me just incase something goes wrong, my trigger guard slipped and just destroyed my motor, if I had a multitool on me it wouldn't of happened.
Just don't carry anything considered as a "large blade"
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30 April, 2012, 12:14
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
if carried and used responsibly then there should be no problem, in fact you'll probably be a real help to someone..
however, you yourself have highlighted that some sites do indeed have a 'no blades' rule. so in those cases its up to you to be aware that there
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be consequences of you carrying such an item
i always have a multi-tool on me unless in sleeping, and even then sometimes i might..
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30 April, 2012, 12:39
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
If the blade is a sub 3" non-locking folder and the site allow it, you're fine. If not, then it's a bit of a grey area. Basically you need to have a good reason to be carrying it. Now, you could certainly argue needing the tools is a good reason for carrying it, but as a counter argument, could you not use a small toolkit instead? Was a blade really necessary?
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30 April, 2012, 13:09
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
This might seem a silly question.
What do you consider 'a locking blade'?
My gerber as do many leathermans have locking blades to stop it closing on your fingers.
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30 April, 2012, 13:21
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
if you carry ANYTHING that has a blade that locks, or has an edge over 3 inches (or 76mm) in length then the law requires that you have a 'good reason' for carrying it. whoever asked you for your 'good reason' will decide on its merits at the time
use on private land is different but here we come back to some sites having a 'no blades' policy.
for the record my multitool has non-locking blades and is well under 3 inches. leatherman juice s2 saves the day again
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30 April, 2012, 14:15
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I always have my leatherman on me at a game, i mean on saturday i had my g36 in bits mid game.
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I presume as you are under 18 it does not have a blade? Pretty sure the sale of any bladed object to persons under the age of 18 is a criminal offence....
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30 April, 2012, 15:03
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
Don't think there's a law about owning one though, how Many cadets get Swiss army knives for birthdays and Christmas presents?
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30 April, 2012, 15:07
It was my stepdads mate, gave it me back when i was in cadets.
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30 April, 2012, 15:53
Re: Quick question, concerning multi-tools.
all my children have been given swiss army knives on the occasion of their 10th birthdays, and of course shown how and when to carry/use one appropriately.
my children only use their sak's when being (mostly) supervised by a (mostly) responsible adult. i wouldnt encourage anyone that young to carry one in public unless they were being supervised by a responsible adult. however i dont think there is a specific law regarding under 18's using knives (and therefore carrying them) in public, especially a sak type pocketknife (non-locking, <76mm)
knives are tools that are in use everyday, by nearly everyone,
for example 15 yr old boy happily sat by a river fishing, on the ground next to him with all his other kit a medium sized fixed blade knife contained in its sheath. no problem i say. he seems responsible and clearly has a good reason for a fixed bladed knife. it really doesn't matter if hes 15 or 50
same 15 yr old in a town centre on a saturday morning wearing the same sheath knife on his belt... not cool at all. it really doesnt matter if hes 15 or 50..
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30 April, 2012, 15:54
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This might seem a silly question.
What do you consider 'a locking blade'?
My gerber as do many leathermans have locking blades to stop it closing on your fingers.
Taken from the British Blades forum
Q: What is the legal definition of a lock knife?
A: A Crown Court case (Harris v DPP), saw an enthusiastic lawyer convincing a judge that a lock knife was equivalent to a fixed blade knife when the lock was engaged. Even though it has not been defined in a parliamentary act, it has never been overturned or superseded and so is effective law (case law). A lock knife for all legal purposes, is the same as a fixed blade knife. A folding pocket knife must be readily foldable at all times. If it has a mechanism that prevents folding, it's a lock knife (or for legal purposes, a fixed blade)!
Basically, if there's some sort of means of stopping the blade from folding back in, it's a locking blade.
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