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Ryan2T69
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Buying a RIF without UKARA
16 August, 2012, 20:01
I was just wondering what course of action will be taken if someone buys a RIF from zeroneairsoft without declaring that they have a UKARA number or forgot to add a UKARA number? I am aware that it is illegal to buy a RIF without a UKARA number. I don't want this thread turning into a childish debate like most other threads. Thanks
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16 August, 2012, 20:07
Re: Buying a RIF without UKARA
do you mean Z1 the shop if so they wont even think about it without some form of defence or Zin the forum?
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16 August, 2012, 20:12
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I mean Z1.
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16 August, 2012, 20:12
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It's not illegal to buy without UKARA. All you need is a valid defence, be that UKARA a site membership, or a re-enactors permit. It's in violation to the VCRA act to sell to someone without a defence though.
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16 August, 2012, 20:13
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Provided you mean the shop and not the forums they wouldn't ship the gun out until they have confirmed confirmation of your defence.
Some retailers even charge you about a tenner for trying to buy a RIF without a defence.
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16 August, 2012, 20:18
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Brilliant, thanks guys for your helpful replies.
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16 August, 2012, 20:54
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16 August, 2012, 21:08
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As long as you're over 18,
you don't need
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form of 'defence' to buy or attempt to buy a RIF
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16 August, 2012, 21:16
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I forgot the over 18 part. :P Pan is indeed right.
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16 August, 2012, 21:17
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Panoptes, can you explain further? I'm now officially mindf*cked...
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16 August, 2012, 21:23
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Panoptes, can you explain further? I'm now officially mindf*cked...
I think he's talking about the fact that it's not down to the buyer to prove their defence for buying an RIF, it's down to the seller to make sure of that, I.E checking for a UKARA number or asking for a deceleration of another form of defence. It it not illegal to buy without a valid defence, it is illegal to sell to someone who doesn't have a defence. At least that's how i understand it.
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16 August, 2012, 21:24
Re: Buying a RIF without UKARA
he means there is nothing illegal about trying to BUY
if your selling on the other hand, then thats when laws come into effect
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16 August, 2012, 21:24
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same i always thought you needed to be UKARA registered to buy a none two tone from a shop. not just over 18
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16 August, 2012, 21:36
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UKARA is not a legal requirement.
Its a group of retailers who in theory got together to make RIFs a viable option in the eyes of the government.
section 24 of the 1968 Act
Supplying imitation firearms to minors
1)It is an offence for a person under the age of eighteen to purchase an imitation firearm
2)It is an offence to sell an imitation firearm to a person under the age of eighteen.
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16 August, 2012, 21:38
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same i always thought you needed to be UKARA registered to buy a none two tone from a shop. not just over 18
Nah , as has been stated you just need a valid defence , UKARA is just so the shops don't have to do any work to take your money off you ! Well sending an email to your site to ask if your a member is SO much hard work !
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