Systema Challenge kit help

[spacey]

Hi,whats the difference between the m4a1 ptw and the m4a1 max ptw is there a lot of difference?

[dantwnn]

Re: Systema Challenge kit help

get the max.stronger gears and motor and can run at whatever cylinder you want.also has nicer build components.

[Bleedout]

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get the max.stronger gears and motor and can run at whatever cylinder you want.also has nicer build components.

Half of what that says.
The Max has the ability to fire Systema's Blue, Gold, Red and silver cylinders which would give you anywhere from 420FPS up to nearly 600fps.
The standard ptw can still pull the above cylinders but the gears arent as strong (alloy instead of steel) so the gears wear down/fail the motors are the same.

One thing worth noting is in the UK an AEG is limited to 370FPS so dont have to be able to shoot at 500+fps.

[spacey]

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so if im going to be using a m100 spring it should still last.(is the trigger response any different between the standard and the max)

[V.A.K]

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Unless your good with electronics and good at soldering get a ready built one

[Bleedout]

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trigger response will be no differant as the motors will be the same.
M100 is about 350fps which i what mines been running for more than a year no problem.

And to the above if you can build a JG AEG a PTW is easier to assemble. only tricky bit is the soldering of the motor which you may want to get done by someone skilled with a soldering iron.

[V.A.K]

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And the max can use a black cylinder which has gives 300 fps

[Kingwell]

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PTW's dont get m100 springs, only m90/110/130/150/165

non max PTW's will run up to a gold cylinder (130 spring)

the difference being that the gears are a higher ratio than MAX ptw's, in theory the trigger response would be quicker but its not noticeable.

and as for power a black(90) can run anywhere from 300-360 fps, blue(110) from 360-430 and so on

[V.A.K]

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Cheers for the clarification kingwell

[Bleedout]

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the difference being that the gears are a higher ratio than MAX ptw's, in theory the trigger response would be quicker but its not noticeable.

Ah i thought it was steel gears on the Max's to handle the Higher power springs i stand corrected.

[Kingwell]

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Ah i thought it was steel gears on the Max's to handle the Higher power springs i stand corrected.

Nah mate you are right they are stronger, but the gear ratio on a max is considerably lower to give a lot more torque... whereas the Supermax gears are made from the same alloy as the MAX but are a lower ratio again.

[spacey]

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Cheers Guys, im not building it my self im paying for someone else to do it for me and i think i will go with the max cqbr should be good.