The "brightness" poll!

[Proto]

Tan/sand, olive drab, real world colours and notably bright (i.e. easily distinguishable from black/grey) but would you consider these bright enough to be used as two-tone colours, and why?

[Sir Stephen]

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i have said no as due to being real world colours, they could still be mistaken for a real firearm is used, defeating the point of an IF

[Proto]

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Ah, but a pink armalite exists and so you can get a femme fatale and use that for crime Also, a MAGPUL'd up M4 would be more distinguishable, becoming an identifying feature due to it's irregularity.

[Coski]

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Obviously not, otherwise a Tan/OD Masada would be legal to buy by someone not registered.

And Proto, the G&G Femme Fatale is technically classes as a two tone. You dont need a UKARA to purchase it.

[Sir Stephen]

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yeah, but do you not have to still have a defence to buy a the pink rifle? (never tried myself so don't know =P)

[Proto]

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And Proto, the G&G Femme Fatale is technically classes as a two tone. You dont need a UKARA to purchase it.

The reason I quoted the femme fatale is because it fits in to the two tone category despite a real firearm being sold in the same colour, making it indistinguishable from an actual firearm, the point of the section within the VCRA covering the definition of an IF. Through interpretation of the VCRA, tan/od guns are two tone and as such legal to buy, one of the many loopholes of the VCRA!

Edit: The Femme Fatale is two-tone according to Zero One and doesn't have the option to two-tone

[Coski]

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The reason I quoted the femme fatale is because it fits in to the two tone category despite a real firearm being sold in the same colour, making it indistinguishable from an actual firearm, the point of the section within the VCRA covering the definition of an IF. Through interpretation of the VCRA, tan/od guns are two tone and as such legal to buy, one of the many loopholes of the VCRA!

Edit: The Femme Fatale is two-tone according to Zero One and doesn't have the option to two-tone

The VCRA says that a rifle needs to be coloured in at least 51% of a BRIGHT colour, i.e red, orange, green, blue, pink etc. OD and tan are not bright enough to be covered under the VCRA.

And to your point of their being a "Femme Fatale", in real life, that is a question that has always plagued myself. What is to stop someone two toning a real firearm?

[Proto]

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The VCRA says that a rifle needs to be coloured in at least 51% of a BRIGHT colour, i.e red, orange, green, blue, pink etc. OD and tan are not bright enough to be covered under the VCRA.

A few months ago on this forum, I asked about the definition of bright in terms of the two-toning and someone (you know who you are, even if I don't!) said apparently bright has no legal definition, and was advised that as long as it's distinguishable from black it should be alright

Edit: also was said that 'primary' was something along the lines of the colour which covers the most area, so two tone could be three or four tone if you wanted!

[Proto]

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Apologies, it was advised that it should be alright if it's "easily distinguishable in low light conditions"!

[Panoptes]

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The Home Office states 'Bright' then lists examples. Tan/OD don't cut it.

/thread.

[Proto]

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The Home Office states 'Bright' then lists examples. Tan/OD don't cut it.

/thread.

Olive drab could be classified as bright green and tan could be classified as bright yellow, there is no question of legality of two tone using tan or OD, merely a question of wether you would consider it acceptable for it to be used.

[Panoptes]

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Olive drab could be classified as bright green and tan could be classified as bright yellow, there is no question of legality of two tone using tan or OD, merely a question of wether you would consider it acceptable for it to be used.

Erm, no. No one would and more importantly, no court in the land would consider them 'bright'.

Can the mods add a poll option for 'this thread is silly'?

[Proto]

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That is by all definitions light, what stops this being bright?

[Jasont21]

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Its a dull colour and doesn't 'hurt the eye'

[Longshot]

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It doesn't correspond to the aforementioned list of example bright colours for one.

This whole conversation is moot since it only has relevance in a land of theory which, unfortunately for anyone stupid enough to apply a theory like "my gun is 51% tan and therefore it's a two tone!", is not the same land that the police live in.