The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

[Fizzy]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

Not sure if GZ still have the bang rule, but they said you had to be basically within touching distance

[Fenriz]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

As ive always stated, the bang rule is for sissy losers. I dont respect it, and wont observe it.

If a site insists on it, ill vote with my feet and go elsewhere. One tap-shot is enough for anyone. If youre hosing people down at close range, then youre a poor player and a class A bellend anyway.

You shouldnt use the behaviour of lowest common dominitor mouth breathers as an excuse to make everyone else play rock paper scissors in DPM. You should exclude them as befits their behaviour. Preferably while pointing and laughing, and making spurious comments about their mothers sexual conduct.

[N_Scooby]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

If a bang rule is in place I will observe it and take it if someone has worked hard to sneak up on me. I would dispute an obvious bellend trying it on.

The worst place for this is Bristol Courthouse. They have a stupid 'Take It' rule. This is meant to be compulsory to take if someone gets the drop on you and has a weapon pointed at you. The scenario I found myself in caused me to dispute this and basically tell the guy to shove it up his arse. I'm pinned down round a corner, no way I can even let a shot off due to every time I stick my head out, shots hit the wall next to it. I hear one of the guys noisily advancing on me - fair play to the guy, they need me out of the way to advance and I can't move as I will be instantly shot in the face as I'm stuck. Knowing the guy is going to swing round the corner any second all guns blazing, I drop down on to one knee and point my tri-shot shotty up at chest height. He shouts 'Take It' and throws himself round the corner, rifle pointing approx. 1 foot higher than my head. He has shouted this before I have seen him. I just froze - trying to fathom what just happened? Am I dead? Do I have to take this stupid rule when his rifle is not actually pointing at me? If he had not shouted 'Take It' I would have just shot him in the chest while he would have put a shot or two into the wall over my head. Anyway I tell him I am not going to take it as his rifle is not actually pointed at me which he is not best pleased about and just to make it clear I shot him in the chest. I am sure he thought he was doing the right thing by not shooting me at point blank, but in my opinion, he was wrong and the stupid rule gave him the option to be wrong.

[McKillmore]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

I play the courthouse a few times a year and yeah, I've experienced this. Though generally it doesn't cause problems. It's mainly down to how people use it. I don't think any kind of bang/take it/surrender rule can be logically applied when the subject is aware of the attackers' presence. I personally get a lot of satisfaction in being able to sneak up on someone and whisper gently to them 'surrender'. I managed this yesterday and caught it on camera. I was right behind a guy and said "behind you" when he looked around, I pointed my gun at him and told him to surrender. Fair play to him he kept his mouth shut and quietly put his hand up.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

I play the courthouse a few times a year and yeah, I've experienced this. Though generally it doesn't cause problems. It's mainly down to how people use it. I don't think any kind of bang/take it/surrender rule can be logically applied when the subject is aware of the attackers' presence. I personally get a lot of satisfaction in being able to sneak up on someone and whisper gently to them 'surrender'. I managed this yesterday and caught it on camera. I was right behind a guy and said "behind you" when he looked around, I pointed my gun at him and told him to surrender. Fair play to him he kept his mouth shut and quietly put his hand up.

Agreed, knowing if the person is there or not is def what seems to make the difference between politely not inflicting unnecessary pain on someone, and an arguement. Think you hit the nail on the head there, or perhaps you shouted 'hit' and waited for the nail to acknowledge hehe

This is why i think the bang-rule is pointless and people should use knife-kills instead. If you've sucesfully sneaked up close enough to whisper 'surrender', that could have been a tap with rubber knife and 'knife-kill' instead. If you're not close enough to do that, then i'd say you're far away enough to shoot. If it's a situation you stumble across rather than sneak, dont have time to get a knife out, or too many people there to get away with it, then just shoot, it's their fault/bad-luck you had the opportunity.

All the other scenarios just end in arguements of 'no i would have shot you first' or 'you couldn't shoot all 5 of us before one shot you back'

Fortunately the sites i play regularily at don't bother with surrender/bang-rule for these reasons. So next time someone shouts 'bang' at me I'm going to shout 'the matrix' back at them and argue i dodged the bullet

[N_Scooby]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

I play the courthouse a few times a year and yeah, I've experienced this. Though generally it doesn't cause problems. It's mainly down to how people use it. I don't think any kind of bang/take it/surrender rule can be logically applied when the subject is aware of the attackers' presence. I personally get a lot of satisfaction in being able to sneak up on someone and whisper gently to them 'surrender'. I managed this yesterday and caught it on camera. I was right behind a guy and said "behind you" when he looked around, I pointed my gun at him and told him to surrender. Fair play to him he kept his mouth shut and quietly put his hand up.

If he had sneaked up on me I would have congratulated him (quietly) and wandered off to re-spawn. It was the fact I knew he was coming and was ready for the confrontation that made a mockery of it. In my eyes he should have could round the corner all guns blazing (it is only single shot there) and taken his chances.

[mrblockninja]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

Mrblockninja, what site do you play at?

At EAG Clapham in worthing (the woods are called clapham) run by Jimbo etc...

[McKillmore]

Re: The Bang Kill Rule: Argument Instigator or Safety Precaution?

If he had sneaked up on me I would have congratulated him (quietly) and wandered off to re-spawn. It was the fact I knew he was coming and was ready for the confrontation that made a mockery of it. In my eyes he should have could round the corner all guns blazing (it is only single shot there) and taken his chances.

A good test for these situations is considering what would have happened if there was no bang rule. He would have missed. Line of sight should still apply with the bang rule.