g3 spring & electric wtf

[screwdriver]

been given a g3 to repair today the gun is all metal with plastic furniture but kept locking up,
upon dismantling and finding alot of aeg parts ive never seen before, found out this gun can be manually cocked and used as a springer.
its about 4 years old and was bought from a uk retailer anyone have any ideas to the make or any other details

[sj_asc]

Re: g3 spring & electric wtf

Have you got any pictures?

[screwdriver]

Re: g3 spring & electric wtf

not at present, but looks like a totally normal g3 as said has a silver grey metal body and black plastic furniture.
internally though it all changes, aeg internals very sturdy ,considerably stronger than a v2,3 mechbox ,piston twice the size of a standard v2,3 and very strongly made.
gearbox is 2 piece design top half with piston bottom with gearbox.
this setup uses no tappet plate but a sprung loaded nozzle that passes up the centre of the piston

[screwdriver]

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photo of gearbox.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/IMG_0582.jpg

[guard-sniper87]

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is it me or does that gear box look a bit simular as the aa r85a1 internals . exspecally if the top half seperates from gear box part

[Destroyer]

Re: g3 spring & electric wtf

not just you

i agree

[guard-sniper87]

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what was wrong with the complete mech box . any thing else then keeps lockin up . .

[screwdriver]

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in springer mode gun works fine about 250fps but when in aeg mode keeps locking up suspect armature on motor a possability.
as previous the gun was bought new from hobbies so is obviously a china gun but the build quality would put alot of new guns to shame as in its very robust but due to its design has limited upgrades and nearly no chance of obtaining spares for it.
he says the gun was bought a yeart or two before the vcr so is hardly one of the first aegs on the market unless at the time it was some very old stock

[guard-sniper87]

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in aeg mode have you checked the wiring from battery . and check the terminals on motor red and black mate . also is there any noise comin from the motor like a clicking as trigger is pulled

[screwdriver]

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its deffo a crapped motor ,out of the gun it keeps stopping and starting but using a meter it has continuous voltage, the motor as with everything else is non standard.
to be honest the design wont allow a great deal of power and the hop is crap and virtually unmoddable and unique to the gun, im more interested in its age and make as ive never seen anything like this before

[Chowder Head]

Re: g3 spring & electric wtf

I remember seeing this a long time ago - would have been before I bought my gun so I reckon it's gotta to be at least 4 years old?

I also seem to remember it being a Both Elephant but I could be wrong.

[guard-sniper87]

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well if you say it before VCRA least we know where the sa80 has the mech box design from . as for mods mate best ask a few shop workers to get definitive answer mate

[screwdriver]

Re: g3 spring & electric wtf

trawling the net it could possibly be a ksc hk33 aeg/springer never heard of it till know, will be ringing hobbies next week for some info

[guard-sniper87]

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ok mate good luck

[sj_asc]

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The gearbox looks very much like that of the KSC 33s series or a clone of it (there is one out there somewhere), the main difference i can see with yous is the use of copper bushings, but they could be aftermarket additions. Heres are some pics of the KSC version for reference if it helps;
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...ch/lowergb.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...h/ksc33gb1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...h/kscgppa1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...ech/kscgs1.jpg