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Boo-Sabum Ben
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Vehicle Ambush quick game
16 February, 2011, 12:17
Just thought I'd see if this has been done before in Airsoft, and if not, what do people think and would they do it?
For this you will need a fibua site, with outdoor and indoor playing space, a car, and players!
Here's how the game works:
Good guys in car, bad guys in building. Good guys drive car near to the front of the building, where they get a flat. They then have to do a pretend tyre change under fire, and escape.
The game is won if the tyre or car fault is changed with team members still alive.
Players inside the car are only allowed 3 midcap rifle mags, and as much sidearm ammo as they can carry.
Players outside the car are allowed 5 midcaps.
If there are many aegs in the game, use a 1 medic rule, but medicking a player will take no less than 30 seconds, ideally 1 full minute.
Pistols only with no medics.
Ideally re car is an actual car, and not an apc or something like that. The idea is a very quick intense game with lots of panic!
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16 February, 2011, 12:25
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Good idea. I've always wondered how you can get vehicles into the game without too much risk. Yes, I know some sites use them, but the limitations are often too big for some owners to risk it.
I can only see one problem. Who's going to volunteer their car considering the risk of damage and the number of BBs they'll have to hoover out. The average open 4x4 that sites use wouldn't provide sufficient cover to make this work.
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16 February, 2011, 12:27
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I like the idea. But see several problems with it.
1) vehicles in game, H&S/Public Liability Insurance nightmare
2) Everyone will want to be the driver and probably try to drive it as if theyre the stig. Possibly solved by having a marshal drive, but then thats 1 less player in the car. Ideally some sort of people carrier or maybe transit van would be best so you could get a fairly big team in it. Would be a bit lame and 1 sided if you only had a regular car with 3-4 players in it.
3) What if people dont know how to change a tyre? :P If I was in the car, Id want 4 big burly blokes with me, not the first time player 2tone warrioer 14 year olds that I seem to attract.
Perhaps another suggestion for it would be protect the VIP, doesnt matter how many of the players in the car die as long as they can keep the VIP alive? Wouldnt necessarily need a building either, could be done anywhere with a track, would be cool to do it in woodland ambush scenario with a 4x4 or something.
Youd have to get a dedicated vehicle though as nobody would risk their own personal vehicle, and I dont know if thats a level of investment mose sites would want, though I suppose they could just get an old shagged out Ford Escort or something for £200 and keep it on site so it wouldnt need tax or insurance. Still quite a high outset cost for potentially little gain.
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Boo-Sabum Ben
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16 February, 2011, 12:33
Well it would have to be an old banger that the site bought for peanuts really.
Would also love to try a vehicle assault, either drivin up o a buldin then assaulting from the car, or simply assaulting the car.
Could be mixed up in that the bad guys try to steal the car maybe! That way they have to advance on it sooner or later!
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16 February, 2011, 12:38
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Whilst changin the tyre they have to protect the VIP and have to option of bugging out into nearby building. Leaving people to change tyre and others to
Protect and leave to risk of being 'tagged' (i know airsoft is a non contact game it'll be a touch or taking of a rag) and kidnapped.
I know it pushes the rules slightly but with the right bunch of lads could work.
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16 February, 2011, 12:43
Those are some goo points T!
I suppose there would have to be a certain amount of trust to the driver, marshals pick those that can be trusted, if they drive it badly no chance to do it again.
Teams, would have to be equal size. Small car, small teams. Minibus could work, but I'd imagine everyone falling over each other getting out haha.
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16 February, 2011, 12:46
Couple more details I forgot to add!
It would have to be a special event, no way it would work on a rental day. Could be made into a tourney to see who does it fastest or whatever.
Changing the tyre, wouldn't obviously be changing the actual tyre. More likely the have to open the boot, take something out, fiddle, put it back in, away they go. Rather than actually doing a full on tyre change!
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16 February, 2011, 13:09
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I dunno, I like the idea of doing a whole tyre change, especially if you are gonna do it as a timed tournament, would be up to players to assemble thier own teams that way, so you can pick whos going to be better suited to jacking up the car and changing wheels over (lose points if you dont do it right, you drive away and the wheel falls off! :P ) and whos going to be better suited to defending the vehicle/VIP etc. Who can change it fastest and with least casualties.
Another idea, that I think would be a very nice touch and should be easily doable. Remote detonated flashbang or small maroon, controlled by a marshal to similuate a tyre being shot out, so the team dont know exactly when its going to happen. Might make a few people jump! :D
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16 February, 2011, 13:18
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I really like this idea, but as said above, it wouldn't have to take place in an urban/fibua setting, it would be equally interresting in woodland.
I am in favour of a marshal driving the vehicle, as this would elimiate all the problems of the 'future stigs' and it would probably be easier insurance wise...
To solve the issue of players, maybe after 15 minutes or so, the players from the vehicle could call in backup. This ideally would come from another vehicle, but as it would be even more expensive to buy/operate two cars, maybe having the backup arrive on foot would be more practical.
Like this idea a lot though, also I imagine a sniper on the team trying to capture the vehicle could make things very interresting...
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16 February, 2011, 13:43
The car could be put on one of those wires, and be dragged along a street on the site and stopped at random by a remote operator, stops the stig problem as well as people being over prepared.
I like the idea of not being told what's gonna happen, but then for it to work it would have to be very obvious what happened when you get out. Might be easier if they just have to stop for no reason and take out the bad guys before moving on.
The VIP idea is good, would really need to be done with windows though, as I imagine if the mission was to kill the VIP for the bad guys, theyed just spray the windows and kill the VIP instantly, making for a very short game! :P
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16 February, 2011, 13:44
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Actually that makes me think of an interesting idea,
why not go all the way and go totally urban with it? Somewhere like... bugger cant remember the name of the place, that FIBUA army training ground in wales or somewhere like that? The one they ocasionally have milsim events at, it could be an interesting milsim style tournament? Load of teams turn up, each team takes it in turn driving/being OpFor. OpFor goes and sets up a random ambush somewhere in the village, car has to get the VIP safely from one end of a circuit to the other with an ambush/wheel change somewhere in the middle?
Not keen on the drive-by-wire idea either, could be a lot of hassle and would take half the fun out. I think the remote maroon idea would be better :P
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16 February, 2011, 13:51
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Thats a good idea Tiercel. Would be a good way to make the game much more meaty and not just a one off standoff!
Could also start off or end with the other thread idea I just posted
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17 February, 2011, 22:35
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how about opfor turn up in a car and drive into a base or up to a high profile location eg an embassy or something (doesn't really matter) so basically the car has a bomb in it and the opfor try to detonate it but the primary detonator doesn't work so basically the opfor objective is to get the secondary detonator which is with their secondary team just outside the base, the main force eg USMC objectives are to take out the bad guys left guarding the vehicle without damaging the vehicle enough to set off the bomb and then disarm the bomb, and at the same time they have to track the guys sent to the secondary opfor team and eliminate the secondary team so that they don't get away, of course the secondary teams location is known only to the opfor team and it's up to them who guards the vehicle and who gets the secondary detonator. could do with refinement but i think it'd be fun also there would be no respawns
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23 February, 2011, 10:37
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We have two landrovers we bought specifically for vehicle games .
They are only driven by site staff though .
If the game requires a full compliment of fighting men in the vehicle , the staff member will just go out armed instead of with a yellow vest
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17 April, 2011, 19:33
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i have done this game where the landy gets ambushed and its triggered by an ied witch is a marron.
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