G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

[willbaroo]

Morning chaps!

How would I go about making my pretty stock G&G CM16 (M4) Raider S much more silent than it is.

I watch videos on the youtube of all these slick sounding AEG's that hardly make a sound when fired, where as mine well, mine is not that silent.

Its got the gen 2 motor in and a std gen 1 gearbox and its pretty peow peow. I want it more pff pff pff.

Any thoughts?

Would the cost of making it quieter out run the cost of a better internalled replacement?

Cheers all!

[WTP_Trust_ME]

Re: G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

A pukka shim job, correct lubrication, correct AoE, sorted airseal and a sorbo pad can go a long ways.

Shims will cost you a few quid, sorbo about £12 off eGay and lithium and silicon grease is a couple of quid a tube which will last forever.

To sort your air seal you will need to ensure the optimum seal between the following:

Piston head -> Cylinder
Cylinder -> Cylinder Head
Cylinder Head -> Air Nozzle
Air Nozzle -> Hop Rubber

It will take some fiddling but it's well worth doing.

Silent Piston Head/Cylinder Head sets are pretty much useless in my experience.

[dave38x]

Re: G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

Sorbo is also worth it for reducing noise signature.

[Caldymoose]

Re: G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

Contrary to what some people will say, a suppressor can in some circumstances make a difference. It needs to be a decent make though and not a hollow tube. Im still a little unsure of exactly what to recommend to you to make it happen, and it wont always help. I know for a fact it did on my H&K 416 build.

But as above, perfect shimming, well lubricated and a sorbo pad. Ignore the silent piston heads any cylinder heads, they wont have a noticeable impact. Stock motors tend to be quite noisy, so a higher quality one running on a powerful 7.4v LiPo will help. Motor wont be straining at all then.

Equally then, dont run hi caps. You could have the quietest gun in the world, but a half empty high cap when your running is louder than a Formula One race start whilst several jumbo jets fly overhead whilst a brass band plays whilst Rammstein play a live show in the pit lane.

[dave38x]

G&g motors are... Poor. Get a quiet high torque - I'm not sure what constitutes a quiet one, if well shimmed an Shs high torque is definitely quiet

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[ElZer0]

Re: G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

As above reaaly, shim lube and sorbo

[jonny lovegrove]

Re: G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

i found that G&G motors are quiet. much moreso that the SHS i have. and the suppressor should be a mix of foam and baffles for the quietest possible output.

[dave38x]

Johnny - probably varies from gun to gun, the umg I worked on recently was far quieter after I installed an Shs high torque

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[jonny lovegrove]

Re: G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

true, but the UMG's are veeery quiet when setup right.
best AEG for quiet? G&G FN2000. fill the body up with foam and goddamn.

[willbaroo]

Re: G&G CM16 Raider - Give it the silent treatment!?

Cheers for the input guys, I'm going back to using my suppressor this weekend so we'll see how much of a quick win that is.

In terms of sorbo and what not there is a chap where I skirmish who has just announced that he's able to do this so I'll hook him up and let you chaps know the out come.