ak47?

[spacey]

Hi, im wondering what the best companies for aks would be.
thanks.

[Christo]

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Totally depends on budget but CYMA's could be up to £250 and still be worth there money. If you have the money go for real sword.

[HullAL09]

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mm, you cant really go wrong with a high end CYMA, but if you have the money, as Christo said, Real Swords are the best around.

[Boo-Sabum Ben]

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Totally silly question. Youve got some poor ones, to mid class, to top end. A budget would be useful!

[Kamarov]

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If you're low on money, find any site that stock CYMA's 040 range. They are amazing. They only require a spring downgrade, but after that, they will work with no problems. I never had mine break on me, and it's been 1.5 years. The AKM's are nice, but not as reliable as the 040 models CYMA makes.

If you're going for a proper Russian Army or Spetsnaz look, get any model in the 040 range. They are worth it and are the most accurately reproduced ones. They even have real Izhmash factory markings. For those that don't know, Izhmash is the Russian factory that makes real AK's.

Other manufacturers like VFC and G&G make mistakes on their AK's such as forgetting the side-folding stock, sidemount, or make the ejection port the wrong shape or size.

If you're not on a budget and have 370+ to spend, Real Sword are the way to go. The Type 56-1's folding stock is a bit wobbly, though.

The Type 56 is cool, but not my thing.

The Type 56-2 is comfortable, sexy, easily upgraded with after-market parts (or in my case, real AKM wood kits), and has a folding solid-as-hell side stock.

Real Sword's AK's are blued temptered steel, real wood, extremely solid, and by far the best high-end AK's I've ever handled. And I owned two.

[Christo]

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Other manufacturers like VFC and G&G make mistakes on their AK's such as forgetting the side-folding stock, sidemount, or make the ejection port the wrong shape or size.

Not saying you are wrong but i have a G&G Rk47 which is quit old and was about 200-250 when new, not sure as I bought it second hand. To me and my friend, Hullal09 (Who is very specialised with AK's and such) we haven't noticed anything inaccurate about it.

Also, it performs almost identically as his 042, however the 042 is a bit cheaper but the "pig iron" does feel a bit cheaper.

Just from my experience.

[Boo-Sabum Ben]

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Not saying you are wrong but i have a G&G Rk47 which is quit old and was about 200-250 when new, not sure as I bought it second hand. To me and my friend, Hullal09 (Who is very specialised with AK's and such) we haven't noticed anything inaccurate about it.

Also, it performs almost identically as his 042, however the 042 is a bit cheaper but the "pig iron" does feel a bit cheaper.

Just from my experience.

Feel cheaper it may be, but I bet you you wont break it.

The other day I tried to drill a hole through 1 part of mine, it broke the metal drill!

Next up was diamond tipped nail and hammer, still not a scratch. It was crazy!

[HullAL09]

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I never said there wasnt anything inaccurate about it, Christo. I mean, if you wanna get really anal about it, all of the AEG AK's are flawed as their pistol grips are visibly chunkier because they have to accommodate the motor.

Your G&G RK47 is a nice gun, as is my CM042, but i dont think there's much need to get milimetre technical about the dimensions, just so long as it doesnt look like anything like this:



EDIT: Oy! Aint no pig-iron on my CYMA AK! Steel or Aluminium. Keep your holier-than-though b*llocks to yourself.

[Kamarov]

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I'm anal when it comes to the details on my AK's. I mean, really anal, so these could be considered nit-picks.

The G&G AK-47 has a few mistakes. The ejection port is silver. The issue AK's before the AKM was introduced had it painted black. The pin in front of the ejection port is missing. There is a metal plate behind the bottom front handguard, which was absent on real AK-47's, but exists on Chinese Type 56's. The barrel should be ribbed, which helps heat dissipation. The bayonet mounts are missing. The screws by the stock are missing as well. The weapon is matte black. It should be blued steel, because matte black finished (anodized) started being used on the AKM. The automatic indicator is too high up, and And AK47's did not have the dove-tail sidemount. I'll leave out the difference between a milled and stamped steel reciever as I am not completely sure if the Soviets started using stamped steel on the AKM or later-generation AK-47's.

CYMA I am proud of because they pay attention even to these details. And Real Sword as well. In fact, Real Sword put realism before functionality on their guns.

CYMA is really good, even for a "clone" company. Their Russian-style AK-74 and AK-100 series guns (040 models) are extremely accurate and, pardon the language, fucking SOLID. Dboys might break, CYMA might wobble (nothing superglue can't fix), but the gearbox is more eternal that the mechanism of a Swiss watch. I swear by it.

The day my Cyma's internals break is the day I sign my first pension check.

Don't get me wrong, G&G are a good company, but like most, they spend most of their time on their M-4/M-16 range (ICS for example neglect their AK's, which is why they're not as good), while G&G make the stock NATO length and forget that it can actually fold in real life.

EDIT #1: Both CYMA and Real Sword may require spring downgrades when buying.

EDIT #2: Hulla may be specialized with AK's, but I'm born and raised in Russia. In fact, I'm sat in the Belyavo District of Moscow in my apartment, drinking Zhigulovskoe lager while eating Pelmeni with soured cream as I write this. If anyone knows stuff about AK's, I do. ^^

But in all reality, I handled, fired, and served with AK's. I love them, and like with the woman of your dreams, you learn to remember every line, every frail detail, every flaw, every nuance, every shape. I'll stop before I get too creep. XD

[HullAL09]

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I'll stop before I get too creep. XD

Too late!

And i dont pretend to know everything about the AK family, i just have a genuine interest in firearms, particularly The Peoples Rifle, and am always up for learning more.

EDIT: Ohh yes, downgrades for CYMA's are a must. Mine clocked in at 440 fps before i bought an M105 for it. XD

[Tiercel]

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Seconding the vote for Cyma, they are STUNNINGLY good guns considering how cheap they are. Out of all the guns Ive bought and sold, none of them hold as dear to me as my CM.048 cyma AK74, its a lovely gun, total beast, I feel I could safely club a charging bear to death with it if I needed to.

As others have said, the only thing thatn eeds doing is a spring change, I also put a madbull 6.03 barrel in mine and a guarder clear rubber, I could probably shoot the moon down with it!

[rambete]

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real sword is the best but a high end cyma is good

[oneshot187]

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Edit (forgive me, misread the post!!!!!)

[Jon Bon]

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Real Sword got my vote, BUT, they only produce the Chinese 'Type' range of weapons, so they are visually quite different to your standard '47s AKMs ect. Seems like i'm being picky, but I wouldnt have a russian loadout with a Type 56-1

[HullAL09]

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Seems like i'm being picky, but I wouldnt have a russian loadout with a Type 56-1

Nope, i totally agree. AK fans will quickly notice that its not a true Ruskie AK.