Spraying a two tone gun

[Cerbo Knight]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

or better still, Dont buy 2-tones, get registered and get a RIF

+1 to that. Though I didn't do it.

[MilataryMupet]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

just do what i did
after being "gifted" an IF purchase replacement parts and put them on AT your site them remove for the journey home and replace the green simples and then when your registerd you don't have a horrible sprayed one.

[Ali]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

just do what i did
after being "gifted" an IF purchase replacement parts and put them on AT your site them remove for the journey home and replace the green simples and then when your registerd you don't have a horrible sprayed one.

How is that any more legitimate?

Its still manufacturing a RIF, which is ILLEGAL

[Jsmithy]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

or better still, Dont buy 2-tones, get registered and get a RIF

Haha or that

[darksidedsam]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

^

Rental price at my local site is £20 a go (without extra mags etc)

See depends on what 2 tone gun,
A g36c is very easy to replace the parts and make into a non snot tone once registered and i think it would cost less than £60 to do so .

[Airsofter123]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

If you don't have a defence, you're breaking the law.

Actually, even if you do have a defence, you're still breaking the law. Your defence is just that - your "but m'lud I skirmish so I have a defence" - you can still be brought to court.

That's not technically true - you don't actually have to be registered with any organisation to be allowed to own a RIF. It's just that it's far more safe just in case anyone does take you to court. Amateur filmmaking or even just plinking in your garden (as long as you're fighting someone not just target shooting) is legally a defence. The loose nature of the law is probably why no one has ever been prosecuted for it. Basically it's just a matter of politicians pretending to do something while really doing very little. Not saying I approve of the gaping loopholes, just saying they exist.

[Caveira]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

just plinking in your garden (as long as you're fighting someone not just target shooting) is legally a defence.

Not unless you've got 3rd party insurance as a skirmish site it's not!

[Ali]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

Not unless you've got 3rd party insurance as a skirmish site it's not!

Isn't that a UKARA stipulation? I didnt think "skirmishing" had been defined in Law

Would it not be up to a court to decide whether your activity could be classified as "skirmishing" and whether you therefore had a valid defence?

Genuine questions. I'm not a loophole hunter in any sense!

[Caveira]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

Taken straight from the implementation order:

"6. Paragraph 4(3) gives the Secretary of State a power to provide for further
exceptions, exemptions or defences. This power has been exercised to make
the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 (Realistic Imitation Firearms)
Regulations 2007, which can be downloaded through the following link
http:www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007 20072606.htm. The Regulations provide for
two new defences. The first is for the organisation and holding of airsoft
skirmishing. This is defined by reference to “permitted activities” and the
defence applies only where third party liability insurance is held in respect of
the activities. The second new defence is for the purpose of display at arms
fairs, defined in the Regulations by reference to “permitted events”."

[Ali]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

I stand corrected - cheers RR... clearly my VCRA recollection is a bit rusty!

[N_Scooby]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

just do what i did
after being "gifted" an IF purchase replacement parts and put them on AT your site them remove for the journey home and replace the green simples and then when your registerd you don't have a horrible sprayed one.

A pointless exercise! If you have been to a skirmish site, you are an airsofter, therefore you have a defence!

[MilataryMupet]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

^^ well if he's under 18 then he doesn't
and to ali i have been told by many people including people at my site people on here about that being ok as long as your replace parts before you leave

edit: the simple line is though don't spray two tones

[Caveira]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

^^ well if he's under 18 then he doesn't

edit: the simple line is though don't spray two tones

The act makes NO mention of age, except in relation to purchasing. Strict interpretation of the law would allow under-18's to manufacture and import (as long as the purchase itself happens outside the UK) if they are a regular player.

BUT, until there is some case law, this will always be dodgy ground. As you say, don't spray them and you will be safe.

[Ali]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

and to ali i have been told by many people including people at my site people on here about that being ok as long as your replace parts before you leave

I suggest they are referring to what you could get away with as opposed to what's legal.

Manufacturing a RIF is what it is, regardless of whether you are at an Airsoft site with appropriate insurance. You either have a defence (NOT an exemption) to the VCRA or you do not.

[Cerbo Knight]

Re: Spraying a two tone gun

You either have a defence (NOT an exemption) to the VCRA or you do not.

This.