VCR Bill And The Responsibilities Of Retailers - Advice Needed

[madebynick]

I'm hoping one of you wise forum members out there might be able to offer some advice about the VCR bill following a purchase I recently made.

Firstly, I am not registered as a skirmished. Therefore, the weapons I buy must be painted before they can be legally sold to me. This is clear enough, but having purchased a weapon recently and paid for the item to be painted, it was shipped to me without any painting taking place. Now as I understand it, the VCR act does not affect weapons I currently own and as such, my older guns do not have to be painted.

My question to you all therefore is this:

As I attempted to purchase a weapon legally and received the item without paint applied, is it my responsibility to ensure 50% of this weapon is painted? I assume that it is the responsibility of the retailer to ensure I'm a registered player before sending me an unpainted gun. Is this retailer therefore guilty of negligence?

The reason I ask this is twofold.

1. I don't want to be prosecuted
2. I paid for a service I didn't receive and whereas I don't want the paint applied (as I have now changed slide and frame) I do either want my money back or an item to the equivalent value.

Any advice any could offer with regards to this scenario would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Nick

[Panoptes]

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Your in the clear in my book. If you're over 18 it's not an offence to attempt to buy a RIF (and posession isn't an offence either). Onus for checking is on the seller.

Are you going to spank the retailer for good measure?

[Aitch]

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You're in the clear, if you paid for two toning I'd demand the money back just to peave the retailer :p

[Rampage]

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I would hope that it was just a one off 'incident' that allowed the gun to shipped to you unpainted.

However you may want to report that retailer to UKARA (assuming they are a member), just so they have a record of it.

[No1_sonuk]

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Considering how rabid some people here are, I'm surprised no one's jumped on you for buying it with the intent to modify an IF into a RIF (unless, of course, you bought and changed the slide and frame because the sent a RIF).

[Panoptes]

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Eh?

[westywesty84]

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The vcra has lots and lots of grey areas. Like is said above if you are over 18, whether your registered or not, if you can provide a defence, then you can legally own a RIF.
Just get a few pics of you at your local site an keep hold of em if you get pulled over with them in the boot

[Panoptes]

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Like is said above if you are over 18, whether your registered or not, if you can provide a defence, then you can legally own a RIF.

Here we go....

You do not need a defence of any kind to own a RIF.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R.]

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...and I thought UK firearm legislation was complicated..!

[Edrof]

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The VCR Act of 2006 states under Section 36 that it is only an offence to:

1. Manufacture a RIF
2. Modify an IF so that it becomes a RIF
3. Sell a RIF
4. Bring a RIF into Britain

So you only need a defence against those four aspects. And here are the allowable defences:

Am I right? :D

[magslap]

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shut up and say nothing........oh.....too late

[westywesty84]

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We can all write in bold

So it seems I was wrong after reading it for the first time in two years, would make better sense though surely to reduce violent crime!

[Andrew March]

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If you are worried talk to a solicitor and ignore everything you hear from google lawyers!

[N_Scooby]

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You do not to be a Solicitor to read the VCRA. I bet most Solicitors have never read the VCRA and if you went to see one they would have to read up on it themselves.

I would say to the OP - leave it and don't push the retailer for a refund. If I was the retailer and I had made a mistake then I would ask you to re-package it up and send it back to me for spraying snot green. I would then send it back to you. Obviously then if you decided to break to law by changing the slide and frame (Modifying an IF to a RIF - I'm presuming that these are not a bright colour, please accept my apologies if they are!) and posting it up on a public forum leaving yourself open to prosecution should someone make a complaint, then that would be your problem.

Sometimes its better to keep quiet about things - especially if you already own RIF's.

[No1_sonuk]

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You do not to be a Solicitor to read the VCRA.

Apparently you do if your view conflicts with some members here.