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VCR Bill And The Responsibilities Of Retailers - Advice Needed
13 February, 2012, 13:07
I'm hoping one of you wise forum members out there might be able to offer some advice about the VCR bill following a purchase I recently made.
Firstly, I am not registered as a skirmished. Therefore, the weapons I buy must be painted before they can be legally sold to me. This is clear enough, but having purchased a weapon recently and paid for the item to be painted, it was shipped to me without any painting taking place. Now as I understand it, the VCR act does not affect weapons I currently own and as such, my older guns do not have to be painted.
My question to you all therefore is this:
As I attempted to purchase a weapon legally and received the item without paint applied, is it my responsibility to ensure 50% of this weapon is painted? I assume that it is the responsibility of the retailer to ensure I'm a registered player before sending me an unpainted gun. Is this retailer therefore guilty of negligence?
The reason I ask this is twofold.
1. I don't want to be prosecuted
2. I paid for a service I didn't receive and whereas I don't want the paint applied (as I have now changed slide and frame) I do either want my money back or an item to the equivalent value.
Any advice any could offer with regards to this scenario would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Nick
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13 February, 2012, 13:09
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Your in the clear in my book. If you're over 18 it's not an offence to attempt to buy a RIF (and posession isn't an offence either). Onus for checking is on the seller.
Are you going to spank the retailer for good measure?
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13 February, 2012, 13:13
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You're in the clear, if you paid for two toning I'd demand the money back just to peave the retailer :p
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13 February, 2012, 13:27
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I would hope that it was just a one off 'incident' that allowed the gun to shipped to you unpainted.
However you may want to report that retailer to UKARA (assuming they are a member), just so they have a record of it.
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13 February, 2012, 14:07
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Considering how rabid some people here are, I'm surprised no one's jumped on you for buying it with the intent to modify an IF into a RIF (unless, of course, you bought and changed the slide and frame because the sent a RIF).
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13 February, 2012, 14:43
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Eh?
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13 February, 2012, 14:55
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The vcra has lots and lots of grey areas. Like is said above if you are over 18, whether your registered or not, if you can provide a defence, then you can legally own a RIF.
Just get a few pics of you at your local site an keep hold of em if you get pulled over with them in the boot
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It looks like I'll need to brush up on my fieldcraft/untutored thrashing about in the undergrowth
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13 February, 2012, 15:05
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Like is said above if you are over 18, whether your registered or not, if you can provide a defence, then you can legally own a RIF.
Here we go....
You
do not need a defence
of any kind to own a RIF.
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13 February, 2012, 15:20
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...and I thought UK
firearm
legislation was complicated..!
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13 February, 2012, 15:24
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The VCR Act of 2006 states under
Section 36
that it is only an offence to:
Manufacture a RIF
Modify an IF so that it becomes a RIF
Sell a RIF
Bring a RIF into Britain
So you only need a defence against those four aspects. And
here
are the allowable defences:
Am I right? :D
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13 February, 2012, 15:26
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shut up and say nothing........oh.....too late
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14 February, 2012, 10:55
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We can all write in bold
So it seems I was wrong after reading it for the first time in two years, would make better sense though surely to reduce violent crime!
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16 February, 2012, 12:21
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If you are worried talk to a solicitor and ignore everything you hear from google lawyers!
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16 February, 2012, 12:40
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You do not to be a Solicitor to read the VCRA. I bet most Solicitors have never read the VCRA and if you went to see one they would have to read up on it themselves.
I would say to the OP - leave it and don't push the retailer for a refund. If I was the retailer and I had made a mistake then I would ask you to re-package it up and send it back to me for spraying snot green. I would then send it back to you. Obviously then if you decided to break to law by changing the slide and frame (Modifying an IF to a RIF - I'm presuming that these are not a bright colour, please accept my apologies if they are!) and posting it up on a public forum leaving yourself open to prosecution should someone make a complaint, then that would be your problem.
Sometimes its better to keep quiet about things - especially if you already own RIF's.
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16 February, 2012, 12:47
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You do not to be a Solicitor to read the VCRA.
Apparently you do if your view conflicts with some members here.
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