tw@t's on the field .. :)

[hoggy21]

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Ahh, jolly good day to ye all!
I care to re-live a tale, which is most intriguing! So, if you pull up a sandbag, grab the Pimms and a cigar from yonder box on the drinks cabinet, then i shall regale you with it!

So yeah. In 5 years of airsofting, I've gone through hundreds of thousands of rounds, nearly treble figures in guns, maybe touching 5 figures in cash (site fees, guns, ammo, accessories.... etc etc...). I've played at about 25 to 30 sites all across the country, from very superb CQB sites in Lincoln to my old stomping ground of GZW. I have had mixed experiences, some good days, some amazing, days, some which stick in my mind, and some horrendous days which stick for obvious reasons.
One memorable instance was the man who, in his panic at seeing a man in a window at GZU, shot said man in the gentleman region with a 120rnd shower grenade. The distance was about 8ft. I have never see somebody drop so quickly. Poor poor man... The guy who did it was rather apologetic though.
Anyway, on with my story.

I had arrived at a site which i had been to only once before. My experience of the last time had not that great, but willing to give it another chance, i reluctantly went along with my fellow team mates to said site. We did the normal chrono and all was good with the world. Out of the corner of my eye, i did notice a couple of the so called 'Elitests'. Now, me myself do have a fair old bit of the old 'geardo' look about myself. When i began airsofting, my webbing from work did the trick. As time went on though, i decided that new equipment was required, and went through various chest rigs, assault vests, plate carriers and other fancy equipment to get what was functional. Bear in mind, when i go out for the day, i dont come back in for more ammo! As i donned the MTP trousers and green UBACS, chucking the sprayed tan rig over my supple body, i couldnt help but overhear a few comments coming from the 'Elite' regulars of the site.
'That rig is awful'
'Its got black tape holding it together!'
'This lot are going to get smashed'

Oh dear. Its going to be like this.
Now, normally I do not judge people of first impressions. GZ taught me that, especially after I had a few instances with people who I thought were throbbers, and who actually turned into really good mates, or are really brilliant blokes. I like to think that the people of GZ know me despite my absence from the site for over a year, as i was a regular for 3 solid years. I had many a good laugh and cry down there, and I cant wait for the weekender. But i digress from my topic of choice.
The point is, i made a judgement on these people instantly. Normally I can give people a bit of rope to hang themselves first.

So, the safety brief starts, it finishes, the games begin!

Hunting around in forests for folk, it becomes apparent that a lot of our team are in the dead zone. Wondering why, I ask the question to a young fellow. Turn out the 'Elitests' are using some rather underhand tactics, and also not being the gentlemen i worked them out not to be. A quick word with a marshal comes back with 'These guys are site regulars, they wouldnt cheat.'

Challenge accepted - To prove Marshal wrong. I know i should take his word, but I take the word of the guy on the ground who has paid his hard earned money to play over the word of somebody who gets paid to keep the regulars happy.

Long story short. We find the guys. We kill them. Some are gracious in defeat. Two of them threaten to 'bang me out', call me a 'Gobshite ***t' and say if they see me in the street they will 'Fill me in'. All because i managed to get behind them and shoot them in the back with a plastic gun which fires plastic white pellets. At the point when i had to politely tap one on the shoulder and inform him that i had just shot him, he turned around and shot me. Tit for tat? Possible. But if you dont want to die in airsoft, dont play.

I used to THOROUGHLY enjoy airsofting. Over the last couple of years its lost its appeal to me.
I stripped down my kit, so now just have a belt and a few mags. I stripped down my armoury, so now its 2 rifles and a pistol. I find this new compact, run around quickly and dive through bushes tactic much more satisfying than wearing all the gear and trying to be tactical. My favourite day was a simple shotgun and 5 shells game. Nothing else, no mags, no pistol, just a TM shotgun, 5 shells and a speedloader. Best day I had had in a very long time. It made it even more satisfying to shoot Woody in the leg.

The point of all this waffle is the following.

We are always going to encounter the angry agressive over sporting ungentlemenly people. It doesnt matter their age, if they like COD or not, if they are a geardo or an elitest. Its simply how things are these days. But what we can all do, is rather than get angry or bitch and whinge about it, we can do the following:

Take new players under our wings, and guide them through how to play. How to improve. Give them guidance on proper gun control and, if they want it, tactics.
Not settle for abuse at the risk of offending people or losing customers. I look at the site owners here. Just because you want custom, don't sacrifice your site! 10 loyal customers are not as good as 100 irregular customers who will never return due to your 10 loyal, but douchey, regulars.
Bring back the gentlemen (and women). Be honest, take your hits. Mistakes will be made. I have had to be told a few times I've been hit. Even by my own team. But at the same time, if my team mate gets hit, I tell them. I don't think they are cheating on purpose, as you do not always feel it. You can tell when somebody is though!
Lets stop with this tit for tat rubbish. He shot me, I'll shoot him back. Fine, do that! Just not 3 seconds after you have been shot!
If you don't like a site, or its players, don't keep going there! Also, tell the site owner with constructive criticism WHY. Don't come on a public internet forum and air your grievences here. It does nothing but stir up rivalries and petty squabbles. 'This site is shit' is not the same as 'This shit has its problems, but these could be fixed by...' I would much prefer more sites to choose from! I dont like travelling MILES to go to a site.
And finally (thankfully eh?) - Its only a game. Its shooting people with plastic bullets. If somebody gets the drop on you, then shake their hand. Congratulate them. I always tell people if they get a good shot on me. Its the sportmanship of this beautiful game. If they clip my finger or hit my lip, get the left bollock or the right, accept the fact that you play a game where you are exposing yourself to getting shot! Its going to happen! Getting stressy about it will achieve nothing. Not taking hits? Then why play the game? You dont belong in a game where you become invincible at the smallest whim. Enjoy it for what it is. Lear to LOVE

[blytm]

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Thread re-opened for last time.

Keep it civil Chaps please.

[Kaladyr]

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Two guys this weekend, site undisclosed, were terrible all day.
One incident will stick with me though particularly...

Our team were assaulting a building, got caught up at a nasty corridor junction and couldn't move on for a regular stream of fire as soon as any part of you started to break visibility.
I snuck off on my own, quietly taking an alternative route and taking out a couple of enemies to manage to get into the back of the room that was stopping our advance. Get to an alternative doorway into the room and move carefully across it to get a view into the room. Two hostiles both facing away from me into the corridor the rest of my team are trying to move up. I double-tap both square in the back, ~12ft away, no chance of missing, hear the rounds hit down. I immediately step into the room and continue to scan to the corner I couldn't see on my approach. I suddenly get hit by a burst of auto fire from the doorway I've just cleared, I call my hit half expecting it to be my team mates being over-eager to get into the room and look back. The two guys I shot in the back are now both facing me with guns pointed at me, no-one else there. As I turn to walk out they both turn back to the doorway they were covering.
Told a marshal on my way out, but I don't get the point of why people do that. The same guys were like it all day. They flat out didn't know I was there until I shot them and they just straight up ignored it, shot me and carried on. What's the point in going and what do you get out of it playing like that?

Came across them several times in the day and it was apparent that in their eyes semi doesn't kill, you only take your hits if it hurts. I rarely hit auto on my guns, but every time I came across them for the rest of the day the fire-selector got a quick flick...

[forei]

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Sorry bro, accidental dislike

bloody thumbs to fat for me phone

yeah I was thinking why ? only ben knows what I meant.

[seansamurai1]

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Cos that makes you much better because?

[Shaun182]

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You would do that , wouldn't you.

Sorry bro, accidental dislike

bloody thumbs to fat for me phone

[felix80]

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im always behond on everything these days only after i posted that post i noticed things had move on oops

[badger906]

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i had a guy today run to the edge of a door way and poke his gun through into the room i was in and go fully auto on the guy next to me, so i pull out my pistol and shot him in the legs several times. i get an "stop f***ing blind firing!" so i reply "i can see your legs hence im shooting at them" next thing i know he stick just his gun around the corner and lights me up at point blank range... not only had i killed him he just added insult to injury literally.. i considered swinging my arm out with pistol in hand.. but thought better of it and took my hit like the better person.

[forei]

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So I can leave you behind...?

You would do that , wouldn't you.

[Boo-Sabum Ben]

Ben fancy a game down south? Obviously you driving.

So I can leave you behind...?

[Stevey293]

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pinged a guy twice in the forehead at about 10m ish when I was firing into a window didn't take his hit but the welts say a different story.

oh then this guy skip to about 3:13 he didn't do anything wrong he was actually the victim of a t*at blindfiring but what a g*mp none the less.

oh and blind fire 1:15 in.

[forei]

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Ben fancy a game down south? Obviously you driving.

[Boo-Sabum Ben]

If only you were all on the field right now. You'd be the subject of this thread!

[felix80]

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now that's look like challenge, you set the date I'll be the judge of you too.

trust me mate you'll get spanked royally but youre more than welcome to come down and give it your best shot. seansamurai is very good at wot he does thats why hes I/C of our team. ask anyone who goes to Southwest Wargames and ask about Team DC

[seansamurai1]

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Not all of them I don't think.