Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

[BO3864]

What do you think about the morales and such of wearing blackwater/pmc slash any other `sensitive` loadout.

[B.E.N.]

Re: Blackwater / PMC Look Morales!!1

What are these "morales" you speak of?

[FoxyGrandpa]

Re: Blackwater / PMC Look sensitive Morales!

I personally wouldn't be offended at all if someone decided to portray a Blackwater operative on the skirmish field. If people want to portray something in the real world I see no reason why they shouldn't as long as it's not done to be purposely offensive to other players. As far as other looks go, such as WW2 SS uniforms, I think if someone wants to go in that direction for a skirmish kit then they should (Swastikas would be a no-no though). We are adults here and I think we are mature enough to handle a replication of questionable organisation's kit. This is all make believe war after all and someone's gotta play the bad guys.

[Caveira]

Re: Blackwater / PMC Look sensitive Morales!

This is all make believe war after all and someone's gotta play the bad guys.

This is the most significant point here, in my opinion. There's a huge difference between portraying the opfor and using a dodgy organisation as a regular loadout. In milsim, there have to be two distinct sides and, generally, one will be an enemy of "us in the west". None of the countries fighting in Afghan has totally clean hands, but we need to look at the overall reputation and make our decisions from there.

I for one would rather be wearing a taliban style loadout (as that could be opfor or UK/US SF) than wear a Blackwater badge.

Equally, WWII German is OK, but stay clear of the swastika and any groups involved in the holocaust.

We may understand what is going on, but just imagine what the daily wail would make of some photos of people dressed as some of the more questionable outfits we could portray.

[Ricochet]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

Where can you get Blackwater badges ?

[Caveira]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

Where can you get Blackwater badges ?

Couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or serious.



http://www.mcgrogans.com/servlet/the...ECURITY/Detail

[Abbadon101]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

The offence is in the eye of the beholder, but to be safe I would stay away from SS and swastikas to be safe, same goes for Taliban/Insurgent loadouts, stay away from religious symbols and don't go round shouting "Death to the infidels".

[psychow]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

i want to a PMC look, but not potray the Blackwater badge, same with a WWII German SF without the Swastika

[JackBauer8]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

I very much agree, as much as I would not agree with seeing a group of lads in SS uniforms, I would just go on the opposite team. As for Taliban load outs, seen it, never bothered me. Until one of them started shouting death to all white devils (asian lad) and he upset a few people!!! But like in a previous posts, we are all adults here and should not be an issue if your sensible about it.

Stay well clear from wearing the (enemy clothing so to speak) and acting the way they did in there part of history, 1 way to get your ass kicked lol. As for Blackwater and other contractors kit, would not even batter an eye lid at it to be honest.

[Abbadon101]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

If you want elite WW2 German Infantry, look at pics of the Panzergrenadier's all the cool kit of the SS but without the Nazi association as they were German Army plus the look pretty bad ass. PMC loadouts are easy enough. There is already a thread on them here somewhere.

[The Laughing Man]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

i quite fancy doing the british loudout from 'the hurt locker.' whether or not they were contractors (they did talk about money) and whether or not they died rather quickly(an american film making sure the americans came out on top) their desert nomad look was very cool.

[caffin999]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

i quite fancy doing the british loudout from 'the hurt locker.' whether or not they were contractors (they did talk about money) and whether or not they died rather quickly(an american film making sure the americans came out on top) their desert nomad look was very cool.

yeah how shit did they make us out to be lol. Didn't they all have posh accents also?

[CGBully]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

Think there is another point worth making here before we move onto The Hurt Locker

Skirmishes are held on private land and as such pretty much anything goes - however you have to get to site somehow and i for one would not travel to a skirmish fully kitted out

Theats just asking for trouble

i know its not been said that full kit would be worn but its worth noting - imo

and yes they were rubbish Brits - surprised the yanks did not shoot them

[murta369]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

Personally i am not bothered about any loadouts. i mean waffen SS is still acceptable to do since they were the fighting arm and they fought along side the heer.

Anyway why is such a big fuss came up about blackhawk yes i know about the attrocities but creating a blackhawk loadout out of a PMC loadout requires just the badge. PMC loadouts are cool enough

[Ricochet]

Re: Blackwater / PMC and sensitive loadouts

Personally i am not bothered about any loadouts. i mean waffen SS is still acceptable to do since they were the fighting arm and they fought along side the heer.

Anyway why is such a big fuss came up about blackhawk yes i know about the attrocities but creating a blackhawk loadout out of a PMC loadout requires just the badge. PMC loadouts are cool enough

Blackwater dude, Blackhawk is a helicopter lol...