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#61
10 November, 2010, 17:05
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Just not the old TM springer MP5 like those in that photo posted by Monkfish :P
As said , the last I knew the MP5 and 10" L119 were both still being used although i'm a little out of the loop now
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#62
10 November, 2010, 17:38
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A proper Nimrod impression is as hard to do as a decent modern one, lack of info, lack of kit and lack of money will get in the way.
Who has heard of Len Dixon?
Very very special guy who made all the original Leather belt kit
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painting is part of a manufacturing process, you dont buy a car without paint on it do you???
(unless its a DeLorean)
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#63
10 November, 2010, 20:17
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thought that was paul evers?
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10 November, 2010, 20:19
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thought that was paul evers?
Paul evers certainly made some of the early stuff but i'm not sure if he/they were the first.
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#65
10 November, 2010, 21:51
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Dixon made the kit at that time, Evers later.
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#66
11 November, 2010, 20:33
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Weapons wise i'm confident regs in the service will use what they know and like, Ie browining/sig & MP5. However alot of people would say they have dropped the MP5.
I spoke to a firearms officer recantly who said Kent police dropped it after shooting a man in a dufflecoat at 20metres to find him unharmed and the rounds where just lying loose inside the lining of the coat!
I am so tempted to post my impression in another sas thread but i must resist!
I have done about 3 different loadouts on the SAS nothing based on pictures just my interpretation of what they may have used, but always based around the below.
Peep hole balaclava
Anson Tactical Nomex Coveralls
Green abseil harness
Body Armour (Either customised with pouches or a vest over the top)
PWL Triple sub platform
PWL leather holster
5.11 Tactical boots
RS flash bangs
TM Sig Sauer 226
TM MP5A3
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#67
11 November, 2010, 20:37
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Im not so shy x:
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11 November, 2010, 20:44
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Paul evers certainly made some of the early stuff but i'm not sure if he/they were the first.
Paul Evers made the waistcoats.
Len Dixon made the leather belt kit and holsters, etc.
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painting is part of a manufacturing process, you dont buy a car without paint on it do you???
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11 November, 2010, 21:03
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Paul Evers did not make the embassy waistcoat, he might have made the mk1 pigskin but that wasn't used at the embassy and came in
A couple years later.
The earliest Evers peice I have seen is 86. I say seen, I'm sure there
Is some older stuff.
The embassy vest was an odd plastic affair over a Bristol armor.
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11 November, 2010, 21:04
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Really? I was sure that Paul Evers made leather holsters, pouches etc and that the designs were bought and reproduced later by PWL.
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11 November, 2010, 21:11
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Yea, he made vests for Police firearms teams and also for the SAS, i have one of his SAS vests here.
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#72
11 November, 2010, 21:15
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Here it is:
Along with my MK3
My Yeoman of Signals vest:
Teams vests:
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#73
11 November, 2010, 22:48
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Paul Evers did not make the embassy waistcoat, he might have made the mk1 pigskin but that wasn't used at the embassy and came in
A couple years later.
The earliest Evers peice I have seen is 86. I say seen, I'm sure there
Is some older stuff.
The embassy vest was an odd plastic affair over a Bristol armor.
Didn't say he made the embassy vests - but the ones that everyone associates with SAS he did.
Len made all the original kit way back when most on here were still pissing in their nappies.
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painting is part of a manufacturing process, you dont buy a car without paint on it do you???
(unless its a DeLorean)
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#74
12 November, 2010, 07:00
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We were talking about Len Dixon making the leather kit and in the sAme post you say Evers made the vests. A confusing post then.
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12 November, 2010, 10:16
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Didn't say he made the embassy vests - but the ones that everyone associates with SAS he did.
Len made all the original kit way back when most on here were still pissing in their nappies.
You may be right but Paul Evers did make leather holsters, pouches etc.
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