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#31
23 January, 2010, 19:22
Re: airsoft sniper cup
Id thought id put my two pence in after reading about fps etc
To split it up you can have competitors involved in different FPS ladders
These ladders will determine at what range you will fire from etc
so 350
then 500
then 500+
maybe, just putting my two pence forward
Also should be a weekender type thing too
with competitors scored on several tasks that snipers have to do, stalking, making holes etc, so shooter and spotter will have to bung out the night testing bush craft skills
also rifles will need to be inspected before competition
Not only that what about the different types of rifles gas spring electric
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#32
23 January, 2010, 19:57
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isnt 500+ fps illegal over here?
but yes it would be blooming fantastic fun!
GZ were interested in conducting a training day i was talking about some years ago. - they may be interested in this.
the ground on offer there is almost perfect for such an event.
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http://forums.zeroin.co.uk/showthrea...iping-tactics-
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23 January, 2010, 20:22
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i thought that only in mil-sim and game scenarios where one is actually hitting a person with the projectile has a legal limit to 500 fps.
as for hitting paper targets at a range im not sure but i guess air rifles shoot hotter so it may come under that legislation.
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23 January, 2010, 20:25
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yeah mine does around 750fps.
but i see where you are coming from.
not sure how it would all run.
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http://forums.zeroin.co.uk/showthrea...iping-tactics-
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24 January, 2010, 11:23
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this is why this thread is ideal, to work it all out
any more ideas chaps?
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24 January, 2010, 13:56
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target practice
field craft
stalk and shoot
observation for the spotters
insertion and map use etc
march and shoot?
id say ghillie suits are mandatory.
two fps brackets
up to 350fps
up to 500fps
higher if site allows it.
up to 425 on single shot for spotters
350 fps if full auto.
range estimation tools???
if you play a game - you loose points when shot
- when shot once - sit in dead zone for say 1 hour - minus 100 points
shot twice - dead zone for 2 hours - minus 200 points
and so on.
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24 January, 2010, 14:34
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thats a good start, i like the spotter/sniper team up idea, that way i guess
-the team of two do the course together
-if one gets spotted hes out
-and the one left has to continue till the end or till spotted,
- if not spotted the sniper takes first shot at target one,
- then sniper 2 gets second target, if still not spotted they both
- can option for the seconday target x1 each and risk poss exposure or leave it and get to extraction.
points awarded for time taken between targets
hits
miinus points for misses
time taken to extraction
and so on.
i think range estimation should be on a points award basis if without a range finder and estimation is correct +/- 20 feet then say 100 points for right answer plus 100 points for not having laser ranger
or if you want laser zero points awarded in range estimation
im not sure if this would fly though lol, what do you think.
love the rest of your ideas
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24 January, 2010, 14:46
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For range estimation are we looking a airsoft ranges (100m tops ish) because in that 20 feet is a big margin of error, but that is just me nit picking.
Looks quite good but I am sure there is a UK airsoft competition with a sniper event, one person from each team has to sneak up and take a shot at a target.
I like the idea of having a sniper/spotter team having to complete multiple objectives in a AO. With a time limit of say 2-3 hours. having to prioritise targets and move around with out being spotted.
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24 January, 2010, 15:47
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hahaha yeah your right, i was reading a book recently about tactics etc and i forgot we were dealing with bbs not 3000fps slugs lol, yeah 20 feet it a bit much.
but if your estimating a target at a distance of 200-300 feet you need to know this range to get closer for a within range shot so i reckon 10 feet is fine at 150 feet shot.
well spotted mate
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25 January, 2010, 10:58
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mebbe guard sniper could give us a few ideas from the real thing??
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25 January, 2010, 11:04
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That would be appreciated. I am actually hoping this develops, even if not official and merely as a competition on here. The more I think about it the more fun it sounds.
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#42
26 January, 2010, 22:32
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also 'make a ghillie' from what you find, would be fun.
this does sound like a lot of fun though.
im watching the 'ultimate sniper' on the way to work, hmmmm some excellent ideas are brewing.
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26 January, 2010, 22:55
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hey guys , im back
ok so far we have
this is just a draft so bare with me ,
4 different classes
pistols- all players snipers and spotters must be able to complete a selected course with sufficent kill ratio to stay alive ,
stalk/hunt -this phase is given to test the abilty of the sniper and spotter , to get through a certain zone within 2 hours , without being detected at all by the roaming patrol's, you must incorpirate map reading to find locate , and take out 4 targets withing a 3 shot load limit, ranging from 40m- 100m baring in mind most new players wont be able to hit over 70-80 m ..
Camo/ concealment - this will be consisted of each pairing having BLANK concealment vest's and given 75 min to create and conceal themselves from the follow taskees , then to stay hidden while the patrol's are directed to the taskees via comm's and binos to try and identify each pair
FINAL PHASE - the fps rounds
right the sniper rifles vary from ranges , so listen up
280-340fps , range is 55m ,
350-400fps, range is 55m-70m
400-440fps, range is 70m-85m
440-legal limit guys ,
The aim of the game / training is , on each range setting there are 4 targets , 5 shots to be had on each one , one target for a different stance of shoot ,
card 1----- standing stance,
card 2----- kneeling stance,
card 3----- sitting stance,
card 4----- prone stance,
most accurate over the 4 will be top of the class , upon results of the other sections...
please refrain from flaming , this is how real one is more or less like ok guys, ive had to leave things out for obvious reasons,
but i will try and get this set up and running at local site before march - april time , due to family stife and such :p
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27 January, 2010, 12:55
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awesome - nice one mate.
could you not just use your own ghillie for the camo concealment?
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27 January, 2010, 13:07
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i think your ranges are more than a bit large.
most airsofter jugde range like most guys judge there p*nis, twice the size it realy is.
you would be supprised at how far 100m realy is,i dont know of any rifle bar one in the us running at over 700fps that could consistanly hit a target at 100m.(with proof)
90% of airsofters claim to be able to hit targets at 70-80m consistantly, ive still to see this myself aswell(and by consistantly i mean 8 out of 10 shots,more than once).
if they can why is there never any proof....if you claim you can get two cammeras and film it uncut with both,with the targets lazer ranged.
you need to knock about 10-15m off every distance, with 60m being the max
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