Do you actually use tactics?

[thekonassure]

Re: Do you actually use tactics?

I think having a plan and getting some communication between players is important

send a few teams or groups with at least a few players that know what they are doing in each and when said players re-spawn they can ask for more people if needed or send people they don`t need where they need to be

as for teams ? as long as they get what they need to get done done and don`t cheat what ever works is fine but communication yet again is the key call contact when you have contact, ask for cover when moving up or let the person know if you can cover them. Ask for someone to chuck a pyro or make the people near you aware of what you are going to do so that you can help each other

Keeping a look out for targets and keeping everyone safe is the all part of team work these are all tactics

Radio com`s between groups really helps even more with big sites as you can let the rest of the team know how your doing and how that effects the game and how the other team is doing.

It`s a team sport and you`ll have more fun when you work as a team but you can be friendly and crack jokes and try to pull of crazy moves as after all its not real life and if it works you`ll all get a smile out of it and if it don`t you can all laugh about your crazy plan.

Having new players work as part of a group also helps them become better airsofters also it helps when people have technical problems as you may have a better view of their gun or gear then they do holding it also you may have a pistol you can chuck them to keep them alive.

Team sport team work that`s the most important tactic start playing that way as a team and you`ll have more fun and if the other team is playing like a bunch of rambo`s then you`ll more then likely always win......... if the other team is better then you may lose but playing against a better team can only test your skills and help you become a better player

Now if you just want to hose people down all day I`m sure there`s plenty of small sites where there`s no limit to how much you can do that bunker 51 springs to mine hell even the marshals there enjoy popping the odd poor player in the back of the head.

[Commandoo]

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Tactics are only good if you have a bunch of guys who want to.you need to all work together to get the best out of it, I've worked with guys who are part of a stag doo and just want to have fun, same with some of the sons and fathers. You get people who get so wrapped up init and get angary at those who want to have fun..

But I do play for the hole tactics part.. Me and 2 others waited 30 mins for a truck to go by,we was attacking. It went by and up a hill, we moved in. Attacked about 4 people then moved on them to stop a medic getting to them, then moved up to another bunch of guys.. It was so good that we hit around half the team before the game ended. But this is my style of play.

[Simon77]

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Ops sorry thought this thread was about these .......



As always prefer tactical harribo though...... less rattle

As for tactics I like going for a relaxed style of play as find if too serious you can lose the fun element of the game, so like the work as a team but all play as a team be it new or experienced players as then you get things done, just as long people don't try to bark orders at others as then you get splinter groups off doing their own thing.
All in all depends on what game is being played, what the targets and objectives are to whether tactics would benefit it or not.

[the_monkey]

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I run at them shouting "die peasants"...it works quite often

[R34V3R]

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I have been known to try the tictacs thing, but most of the time im the distraction/annoyance squad (im the only member) so just f***ing about does me....

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[Gadge Europa]

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A good grasp of small unit tactics can totally dominate a game day.

My team 'Royal Union Rifles' have a large proportion of ex forces and those that dont are up to speed with hand signals, patrol formations, the ability to create a snap ambush and the most basic of battle drills like left/right flanking, fire and manouvre etc etc.

If *all* your team know whats going on and are up for it you tend to be at least twice as effective as a similar number of guys playing as one man armies. My former team LFO was nearly entirely civilian with little previous military experience but trained to do the above, we also practiced things like storming rooms and corners as a team... we were pretty successful at most events.

Most of gunman airsofts filmsim days use a large degree of tactics. Squad leaders are assigned, squads are briefed on their objectives and the importance of actually working as a team to achieve these and not just 'racking up kills' as its quite possible to shoot hundreds of the enemy and still lose at a filmsim game because you didnt actually achieve the objective of finding the mine field or locating an enemy OP etc.

As i usually run one of the up to 100 strong sides on these events and find myself with two or three platoons to co-ordinate i'd be stuffed if I didnt have a fair grasp of section, platoon and company level tactics. I regularly move units into supporting positions via map and radio, exploit gaps in the line with reserve sections held back with vehicle transport etc.

So yeah we use tactics at every game.

[Zyras]

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Tactics can be a hard thing to get sorted in the 5 mins you generally get to speak to others on your side before game on. What i find tends to happen is we get regular players to man "squads" and they figure out an overall tactic.

As for squad tactics, we try to stick together as we know each others roles, then it is just roulette as to whom else is in the group and how they play.

I dont think you need cast iron tactics for regular airsofting, but knowing what your fellow players niches are can be the difference between success and failure.

[dannyeprice23]

We all play at a site which is 90% regulars. So most members of each team knows the surroundings, how members of the other team plays etc. so tactics are essential. The other 10% usually enjoy their day more as we integrate them into our 'squads' and ensure there's far more to each game than run at each other and keep shooting from behind a tree until one or the other calls hit.

I have seen so many people quit the sport as a result of playing the same scenario week upon week...attack....swap then defend......then attack somewhere else.....then swap and defend that one.

[Gadge Europa]

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It depends on what you play as well.

I dont do open days other than when i'm reviewing them for the magazine. I play nearly exclusively high detail, 48 hour events and if you just run around looking for things to shoot you'll fail to achieve anything against a team that is co-ordinated.

I agree its obviously *very* difficult to get 50 strangers to follow a hasty plan but...

Getting a consensus to say 'send a diversionary loud attack down the left flank while the main body sneak up the right' is usually going to give you a better result than 50 guys just bimbling along with no idea where the other guys on their team are, what they are doing or that they might inadvertently blunder into the 'sneaky' squads area and give them away.

[Chewybacka]

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One thing I find most effective is cover fire, allowing your small group to push through picking off the opponents one by one, I find most seem to want to conserve BB's. They then take cover for too long, then get shot. We are all having fun while most are walking back to regen. You don't need to be a "Arnie", but at least do some shooting lol.

[Counting Count]

Because of the individualisim section level tactics generally work better than platoon or with some days half company level tactical system (s)

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[Gadge Europa]

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Agreed but it depends again on what you're doing.

Take a Gunman Airsoft WWII or Cold War weekend for example. A *lot* of the guys turn up as teams and know each other well. If i'm running a WWII allied side and i've got ten guys from PBI (wwii brits), 10 guys from 47 commando (again wwii brits) and 20 guys from Dog Company (WWII us para) i can make up a plan around their playing styles.

I know the 47 commando guys are a good holding force and tencacious but not great assaulters so i use the to hold a flank. PBI I can rely on to move as a squad and be aggressive and Dog Co are fantastic scouts and far ranging 'harassment' troops. As players who come as individuals can be attached to these groups or formed into sections you can get the new or individual guys fully joined in but know you've a strong base to work on.

At the Italian Front 'gothic line' event I had a full company on 'Germans' in three zugs (platoons) and they co-ordinated perfectly to conduct company level attacks and manouvres.

[Another]

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At the Italian Front 'gothic line' event I had a full company on 'Germans' in three zugs (platoons) and they co-ordinated perfectly to conduct company level attacks and manouvres.

And great fun it was too

[steve grey]

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In well organised games, with ammo limits, you can use tactics to good effect, drawing fire to run ammo down, diversionsry sorties etc, and that's by far the best way to play, but when you're up against 30 high cap heroes, going through 5 thousand rounds a session, it's a lot harder to do, then, the only tactic is to shoot more of them than they do of you!

[Mister Zsasz]

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Working with friends or switched on strangers is definitely a plus for tactics. Last game i started running about with one guy and we worked together very well when it came to moving tactically, finding different approaches and clearing buildings. Makes a huge difference