Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

[Hypnose]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

one on the left could lubricate my piston anyday :D

[seansamurai1]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

Ooh suit you sir. :p
On topic, L85 AVF all the way

[jonny lovegrove]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

after personal experience i would avoid ares/star. Some of their guns are unfaultable but the next one in the batch will break shortly after purchase. But if i had to choose it would be the tar21

[specialist]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

after personal experience i would avoid ares/star. Some of their guns are unfaultable but the next one in the batch will break shortly after purchase. But if i had to choose it would be the tar21

I understand. Experience with any Airsoft weapon has certainly taught me that when you get a new weapon, you never skirmish it without first field stripping it (but not dismantling the build and thereby voiding warranty), lubing the gear box (by syringing a little extra grease through grip), cleaning and lubing moving parts, lubing hop and tightening every bolt and screw that you have access to. Then fire about 1000 rounds to begin bedding in the hop.

Star/ Ares is no exception to the above process.

The Ares TAR 21 is probably the one weapon where one will struggle to find anything loose since it's a very simple and solid construction. It's also much more of an all around weapon that the L85 AFV - the L85 AFV has a shorter barrel whereas the TAR21 has a full M4 length barrel.

[sniper34d]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

I originally opened this thread because I wanted a highly accurate and efficient assault rifle.
I bought a TAR 21 from this forum, it had been upgraded but was not shooting correctly. I stripped it down....which is a bitch btw, major hassle with the internal rod system that controls the trigger and selector switch. The parts are un-common also so broken hops etc would be harder to get. It never did work correctly so I sold it on as a broken gun.

I then bought a new TM M4 Socom and upgraded that. Its a shame TM do not make the TAR imo.

I would go with an AVF if I was to choose between the 2 again (just in case anyone else is considering) I have never seen one on the field!

[Leon_London]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

Specialist no offence taken i just herd alot of bad press considering this i may have a new gun waiting in the pipe line :D

But worry, you where right tbh. Far to many Star / Ares guns have probelms from new and after only a short while of use. There not all bad of course or no one would ever buy them but far to many do go wrong, way above the average compared to TM or CA, hence the reason why so many people say they are unreliable.

[ZX12R A1]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

neither STAR are unreliable want a L86 style gun ICS just released the L86A2 amazing gun full steel with easible adjustable fps for different sites :D

Buy the ICS SA80 is ferking fantastic I have one it is brilliant and as Hypnose says you can just use one spring to get Urban and woodland FPS Limits due to the springer adjuster fitted.

Hops's easy and works very well and (from direct comparison to a Star AFV SA80) shoots further.

Sorry to add options.

[Ricochet]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

I dont own either so totally unbiased here however this is what i've noticed.

Tavor - Plus points - Amazing range easily one of the longest range AEG's ive seen
Accuracy seems to be incredible on these
Sound - the ones i've seen were running on Lipo and sounded lovely
Originality as you dont see too many of these around
Negative points - seems a bit plasticy for my liking, though i dont like the G36's
seen 2 jam during gameplay

L85 - Plus points - British Army use them and we are the best tbh :P
lovely build quality
seem fairly customisable
negative points - every man and his dog has one
not fantastic range
if you get a blowback one learn how to fix all the problems it will cause before you even skirmish it :D

[guard-sniper87]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

Mate id wait until the G&P L85AFV is realeased later this year as it looks brilliant and the specs are very nice too ,

youtube it G&P 2010 , the new products

[xissteve]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

well i was gunna say the TAR 21, just because so many have the L86, then i saw Rockrobins' post, makes the LSW double sexy, despite its an L86 with a longer barrel and bi-pod, pretty much, them ladies made your decision for you! WOW! i really want a LSW now!!!

[sk8inmadkid]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

Standard L85A2 with susat mate

[Twitchy]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

depends what you going to base your loadout on (of you are) cant be a bit of britishness doing full dpm and a SA80

[GH0ST]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

all about sa80 tavor is ok but just feels really plasticy toyey (if that makes sense to you) and have heard mixed reports some good some bad

GH0ST

[sheard]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

manly guns are made of metal! L85 not so sure about the afv version but whatever floats your boat.

[specialist]

Re: Ares L85a2 AFV or Ares Tar 21. which one and why?

The L85 (in any variant) is not plastic except for the foregrip and pistol grip. It's steel as is the ARES L85.

The ARES TAVOR is 90% polymer externally as per real steel rifle - feels as tough as steel and makes the TAVOR nimble in the shouldered position.

Polymer based externals is the future for assault rifles to reduce weight.

The TAVOR really is a multi-use weapon- i.e. CQB, woodland and sniper.