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4 January, 2012, 17:49
Re: Upping prices?
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When's a universal offer and invitation to treat and visa-versa?
It's not quite this simple, but so long as the price is set and full details are given. Rather than "offers around X price"
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4 January, 2012, 18:04
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It's not quite this simple, but so long as the price is set and full details are given. Rather than "offers around X price"
Bad spelling and a busy server stopped me editing that to "an" rather than "and", which does change the meaning somewhat.
Offers around x price isn't needed for it to be an invitation to treat, a fixed price can still be one (after all, just look at all the shops with goods on display and prices next to them). The advert must make clear that the offer is open to everyone who answers it for it to be an offer and as normally only one item is for sale it would be hard to interpret that as a universal offer. "I will sell this to the first person to offer me the asking price" on the other hand wouldn't be an ITT.
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4 January, 2012, 18:11
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People are putting up the price because others are stupid enough or want it enough to pay it. Simple.
Same as you see people trying to sell used stuff for near the same price you'd buy a new item, one can ask any price you want for the shite your selling even though you may well deserve a good slap for having a neck like a donkey
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4 January, 2012, 18:12
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agreed
not an offer necessarily.
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4 January, 2012, 18:13
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I was rushing that reply, was about 30 secs from being dropped off in the car trying to get something typed out on the tablet, lol.
My reply was at the offer side, which the price does need to be fixed. Rather than saying invitation is a non defined price
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5 January, 2012, 07:27
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I've not seen it to be honest really, it they do and no offers have come in then fair enough change it but I imagine some people would list an item for quick sale and if they seem to get 4 or 5 pm's in short time then they will pull sale and try their luck at higher price, I could have done this loads as I tend to list a fair few things cheap so I can get cash and re-buy other stuff quicker but I don't as I think its a crap way of selling. Bottom line is though that if any sort of law has been broken after sale agreed then the worst your gonna do us leave negative feedback otherwise its up to the buyer if they still want the item at the higher price, especially if the first thread with lower price is closed and only the higher price thread is open
If you do leave nagative feedback after sale agreed then as this is zero in you must be prepared for the fact that you will receive negative yourself from the seller and then have a 2 day thread opened about it asking "is it fair".
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5 January, 2012, 10:20
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The Dynatech thread was a disgrace, £85 raised to £100 because people showed an interest, interest, they didn't buy it, state a price and stick to it, the sales here are getting worse.
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5 January, 2012, 10:31
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The Dynatech thread was a disgrace, £85 raised to £100 because people showed an interest, interest, they didn't buy it, state a price and stick to it, the sales here are getting worse.
agreed. I was one of those who offered original asking price. When he upped the price I ceased contact out of principal. I don't believe what he is doing is illegal (although my contract law is hazy and I will bow to jags knowledge), however it is poor behaviour in my eyes.
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5 January, 2012, 10:47
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if you dont like or agree with somthing then just walk away,the seller will build up their own reputation after a while, and could do as much damage to themselves,than negative feedback ever could.
lets face it,if you ever see this seller with somthing that you want,you probably wont even bother contacting them at all,knowing what you know,and the more people that get pissed about by him will do the same,then in time,he probably wont be able to sell anything due to his self made rep.
if its a one off and he cant see his own morals for £ then maybe he can ammend his own behavoiur.if not,he'll lose out in the long run.
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5 January, 2012, 12:26
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You get called a communist/nazi because the forum doesn't allow you to name other retailers (why this is a sudden shock to people I'll never know
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Then all of a sudden some of these same people are complaining that we're not forcing people into what they can and can't ask for their own items? WTF?
The rules do state that a price must be specified and we don't allow auctions as JAG rightly points out, but if people want to put their prices up, that's up to them. If you don't like it, the answer is simple, DON'T BUY IT!
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5 January, 2012, 13:40
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Would you not agree upping the price until one buyer offers the most is an auction still.
I might list my gun up for £1, and then just do the rest via PM until I get a good price
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5 January, 2012, 13:44
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If it happens once, no, if it happens a few times, yes.
Is dropping the price a reverse auction and therefore still a form of auction? Ooh? :p
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5 January, 2012, 13:48
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Is dropping the price a reverse auction and therefore still a form of auction? Ooh? :p
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5 January, 2012, 13:49
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Only fair
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5 January, 2012, 13:55
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i don't really see an issue...
the scenario outlined by the OP is perfectly reasonable to me
sales thread #1 contains a price
that's closed and thread #2 started with a revised price
not great skills on the seller's part, because if any potential buyer has seen both threads they are unlikely to be keen on paying the revised/higher price
however, if the item for sale was e.g. Ares DSR1 Version1, but then the seller discovered it was a version 2 and therefore worth more, starting a new thread is the best approach
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