Upping prices?

[jagillham]

Re: Upping prices?

That's not the issue, it's just the one thread saying £80, and when people PM to buy they are told its £100.

[heydrich]

Re: Upping prices?

the OP mentions "starting a new thread"...

that would be OK imo, but upping the price within the original thread is iffy (so agree with you there Jags)

[Fizzy]

Re: Upping prices?

Iffy, it's unscrupulous, so surely people will be put off.

If not, then the guy's made an extra £20. Welcome to capitalism!

[cool-breeze87]

Re: Upping prices?

Iffy, it's unscrupulous, so surely people will be put off.

If not, then the guy's made an extra £20. Welcome to capitalism!

Capitalism rules. There I said it, all these occupy Wall Street idiots can kiss my backside

[ash8811]

Re: Upping prices?

+1 to the OP 100% agree!!

I understand the fact that the demand for BFGs has gone up due to them being taken out of production for a while. I also take the point that, it’s up to each individual to place a value on their item, they can advertise their item at what ever price they want and they don’t need to accept any price they don’t want. Whether the item sells or not is of no ones concern other than the current owners.

BUT

I didnt think the second hand sales area was for anybody to make money???? I thought it was for people to sell there unwanted items.

If they were happy with a price then in my mind thats what it should be sold for. I had agreed a sale for a couple of BFGs a fews weeks ago. I was then told that the items was no long for sale even after a price was agreed, to add to this I see the same item Re avertised a week later for more money.

I also feel the sales forums are here to help other airsofters to save a few quid not to profit from the rest of us.

my 2p


Ash

[Fizzy]

Re: Upping prices?

There was a thread some time ago about how people had profited from sales on here. For example, I buy a dud M4, owner doesn't have a clue, sell it as not working for £80. I take a chance as I'm savvy with fixing AEGs and find all it needs is 5 minutes worth of soldering. I now have a £150 M4 I don't really need. Should I then sell it at a loss?

[heydrich]

Re: Upping prices?

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good

I'm with Gordon

[cool-breeze87]

Re: Upping prices?

There was a thread some time ago about how people had profited from sales on here. For example, I buy a dud M4, owner doesn't have a clue, sell it as not working for £80. I take a chance as I'm savvy with fixing AEGs and find all it needs is 5 minutes worth of soldering. I now have a £150 M4 I don't really need. Should I then sell it at a loss?

Not at all because you have made it working again. If you buy a broken gun and fix it you are improving it, thus the price goes up, much like if you buy an almost dead gun and upgrade the hell out of it the price goes up.

I can see merits in both sides of the argument, but to simply raise the price because there has been "a lot of interest" is still a pretty disgusting move to make. It's the equivilent of Tescos saying "right we're going to put the price of milk up to £10 a bottle because a lot of people buy that product."

[ash8811]

Re: Upping prices?

There was a thread some time ago about how people had profited from sales on here. For example, I buy a dud M4, owner doesn't have a clue, sell it as not working for £80. I take a chance as I'm savvy with fixing AEGs and find all it needs is 5 minutes worth of soldering. I now have a £150 M4 I don't really need. Should I then sell it at a loss?

But your not selling the same item. you have a working AEG which is worth more than a broken toy. you have added value through using you skills. Also i dont see how you make a loss even if you sell a working AEG for what you paid for it if as you say all you did was take 5 minutes to solder it. thats not really my point.

End of the day if i sell somthing for £50 but have 10 people ask to buy it i dont turn round and say well now i know people want it im going to charge £65.

Ash

[Beef]

Re: Upping prices?

Doubt you will be willing to take it this far, but really in most cases you are legally required to sell at the price stated if you have make a universal offer, and to the first person to accept at that!

is that not an invitation to treat? sale is not complete, however I dont see the point, especially with BFGs as most places are not allowing their use so if anything they should be reducing in price,

[andysmith]

Re: Upping prices?

all depends.

in a supermarket, the supermarket isn't offering to sell you anything on the shelves at the marked price, you are offering to buy it at the checkouts, which if they accept forms a contract. It's not the case that if you pick something up, they are obliged to sell you it, or there'd be major issues with age related goods and that sort of thing.

I'd say the same applies here, only a limited class of people can buy a RIF (i.e. those with a valid defence), so if there is a general offer to sell, the seller would be bound to sell to someone regardless of thier defence or not. therefore, as I see it, you are offering to buy, and as soon as the seller agrees, that is when the contract is formed.


again, I preface this with the fact that contract was at least a year ago for me ...

[JOE90]

Re: Upping prices?

My thoughts on this were that somebody had something listed at say 80, i pm and say yep ill take it give me your pp. Then i get a pm back later saying sorry its yours but price has just gone up to 100 do you still want it?

If thay was the case then yes thats wrong, as the contract of i want to sell and i will buy has been formed in my eyes. do the research then post it for sale.

if not then what is it im missing about this thread lol?

[starscream]

Once they've agreed to sell for 80, they should sell for 80. Upping the price in that situation is just wrong.

[JOE90]

Re: Upping prices?

Just re read the OP and realised he said closed and opened a new thread with higher price.

In my eyes thats not wrong unless hes agreed to sell it lower then give the guy the cold shoulder to up his price in a new thread. Then just more fool you as it will take longer to sell in most cases

[Caveira]

Re: Upping prices?

all depends.

in a supermarket, the supermarket isn't offering to sell you anything on the shelves at the marked price, you are offering to buy it at the checkouts, which if they accept forms a contract. It's not the case that if you pick something up, they are obliged to sell you it, or there'd be major issues with age related goods and that sort of thing.

I'd say the same applies here, only a limited class of people can buy a RIF (i.e. those with a valid defence), so if there is a general offer to sell, the seller would be bound to sell to someone regardless of thier defence or not. therefore, as I see it, you are offering to buy, and as soon as the seller agrees, that is when the contract is formed.


again, I preface this with the fact that contract was at least a year ago for me ...

Spot on. You offer to buy and they can choose to refuse to sell to you. It's very rare for an offer to be made which they have to stick to.

My thoughts on this were that somebody had something listed at say 80, i pm and say yep ill take it give me your pp. Then i get a pm back later saying sorry its yours but price has just gone up to 100 do you still want it?

If thay was the case then yes thats wrong, as the contract of i want to sell and i will buy has been formed in my eyes. do the research then post it for sale.

if not then what is it im missing about this thread lol?

The contract hasn't been formed, you've offered to buy and they can choose to sell it or not.

Once they've agreed to sell for 80, they should sell for 80. Upping the price in that situation is just wrong.

Totally. If they've agreed to the sale (ie accepted your offer to buy) then there is a legally enforcable contract in place.


In reality, people will sell for whatever they want and people will either buy things or they won't. Until there is some sort of system here that forces a sale to go though once it's been agreed, then things like this (or buyers dropping out after agreeing to buy, which is just as bad if not worse) will still happen from time to time. The fact that I don't believe it's illegal doesn't mean that I would be happy about it if it was done to me, but all I'd do is shrug my shoulders and make a mental note never to deal with them again.