Modern USMC Force Recon loadout?

[PKR]

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thanks yeah i know but i prefer the m16 over the m4 dont know why more rail space to attach bits and bobs to i guess!

[Paul 8v]

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Nice! We'll definitely have to rock the sage green suits soon, but Marpat for the next game if everyone else will be in that

[Special bus]

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Do ya think the new RAF flight suits will pass, with a FSBE for USMCFR/Seal?

[PKR]

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with my friend being raf and seeing his flight suits.. they are a different colour to the yanks stuff in my opinion but its not a drastic change in colour so i think it will pass in my opinion its all nomex stuff i believe so go for it

[Special bus]

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Cheers buddy.

[Sgt_bob]

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@PKR: Looks good mate, I think a dropleg assembly would look pretty awesome on your loadout with like a quad pistol mag pouch, double M4 mag pouch.. etc. one thing I would say would be to get a penknife and remove the BULLE tag on your dumper it sticks out a little bit... but that's me being a bit pedantic.
@Special bus: I think my local surplus store stocked some US flightsuits, it might be worth checking yours out?

[Special bus]

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I have lol they want £90 per suit. I like US loadouts but no that much, I do not mind paying that much for a rig but not overalls.

[Fizzy]

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Blimey, you only want to be paying abut £35 for one in decent nick!

[Sgt_bob]

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I have lol they want £90 per suit. I like US loadouts but no that much, I do not mind paying that much for a rig but not overalls.

WTH!? You can get them brand new for that price!
There's a guy selling Tan and sage green ones in different sizes on the Bay at the moment for £40 BIN with free shipping no.190546957902... Just a heads up

[Paul 8v]

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Mine was only £30, it's in pretty good nick. Tell the guy who has them for £90 he's dreaming!

[PKR]

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£25 quid for mine off the bay!

[Fallen]

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Hi guys, this was my almost complete MFR impression, this was my main loadout for quite a while, but I got totally fed up trying to get the last couple of bits and I've since sold most of it.

Half real deal and half replica, missing from the pictures were my MICH2000, it had a foilage green chin strap, my Sordins headset and PTT and obviously my blasters.

IR flag upside down was a mistake

The woodland MBITR pouch was because the real deal one is so damn expensive and hard to come by, the Flyye replica was not even close and the Pantac version was sold out everywhere.

With hindsight I would have got a CIRAS with a hydro carrier instead of the MBSS and MAP, I would have gotten my Safariland holster in FDE instead of black and the waist pack is totally wrong, this is the Pantac version but the Flyye version looks much closer to the actual CSM gear waist pack.

I've still got some of the gear in my back room, if any of you are looking for anything in particular then PM me and I'll see if I've got it.

PS the actual Norotos Marpat covers are totally different to the LWH covers, I bought one with the plan to mod it to look like the Norotos cover and gave up.

[PKR]

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i like it and the 3rd picture has a madame tussauds feel about it haha

i would say move the scissors as they could be dangerous being there!

[Nun-Chuck]

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Here you go guys, a ultimate kitlist for USMC FR, if you are going to do a kit, do it right!

Weaponry:
Standard Rifleman Weapon is the M4A1 with 14.5” barrel. It is very rarely seen that a 10.5” is in use and is by no means standard. Weapons are NOT painted. The Magpul 93B stock was seen for a period a few years back but mostly LE stocks are used. Crane stocks are very rarely seen. RIS is the standard KAC 7” RIS.

Optics

Aimpoint M68 with standard or cantilever mount or the “L mount”.
Eotech 552
Eotech 553 in FDE. Part of the recent SOPMOD Block II upgrade. Rarely seen in Black, stick to FDE if at all possible.
Elcan SpecterDR in FDE. Part of the SOPMOD Block II upgrade.
ACOG TA11E or TA11F
Lasers & Lights

Insight PEQ2
Insight PEQ15 in Black or FDE. Black was used pre Block II and FDE is now the norm.
Surefire G2s are carried as well, but not usually weapon mounted. They have been seen mounted. More on this later.
Surefire M951. Not as common as the M961 or M900.
Surefire M961
Surefire M900
Insight M3X
Insight SU-233
Silencers:

KAC QD Silencer. These aren’t used very often.
Saws:

FN M249 Para. There’s little photographic evidence of different types of SAWs being used. It seems that the Para was used for a time with the Eotech 551 or 552.
FN M240. Not commonly seen, but it is being used.
DMR:

MK11
MK12
M40
Side Arms

1911 MEU(SOC) is the issued weapon to MFR. My understanding is that these are modified by the Quantico armorers specifically for MFR. These DO NOT have rails on them. The Pachmyr grips have the EGA embedded as the logo.
Lights:

Surefire 310R
Not commonly seen anymore. These are EXTREMELY rare these days and as far as I know there aren’t any replicas.
Shotguns:

M1014. Primary breaching shotgun in recent times. Sometimes seen with an Eotech 552. Often times secured to the person using the Slung Belt Catch and Lanyard.
Gear

Now onto the fairly lengthy and indepth portion. I’ll cover vests, clothing, helmets, gloves and accessories to some degree. I’ll be putting here what’s backed up with photographic evidence as well as from the FSBEII NSN Order sheets and related. More gear is used by these guys that we can know. Assume that all gear is in Coyote Brown unless otherwise stated. You can set it up just about however you like but be smart about it. Most of the time this is personal preference, but sometimes the location of the IFAK is set for a unit to ease in the treating of casualties. If you and some buddies are going to all do a similar loadout I suggest picking a similar spot. It’s worth noting that Allied Industries and Eagle Industries use different shades of Coyote Brown. Allied Industries is more brown while Eagle Industries has more of a green tint to it.

Fatigues:
Tru Spec and Propper ACU Cut MARPAT is incorrect for this loadout. The real MARPAT fatigues do not have velcro on the sleeves.

Woodland MARPAT MCCUU
Arid MARPAT MCCUU. Pet peeve of mine is those who call it DARPAT, that’s not what is called.
Arid MARPAT FROG MCCUU
Sage Flight Suit. CWU-27/P
Tan Flight Suit. CWU-27/P
Many Flightsuits are specially modified with velcro added on the upper sleaves.
Vests:

Allied Industries FSBEII MBSS. This item is not available to civilians along with all Allied Industries equipment. Replicas are available and are recommended, the real ones will sell for north of 500.
Eagle Industries Land CIRAS. Maritime CIRAS’s have been seen but are not standard. I would stay way from them if at all possible.
Eagle Industries MCAV. This vest saw use for a short time and was never very common. Quite rare these days, I’d just avoid this one.
Eagle Industries RRV-S. This is sometimes seen with a backplate, contrary to propular belief the Eagle RRV backplate is not used. Instead the rear half of the MBSS is used. You can either buy a full MBSS and use the back half, or the MBSS backplate is sold by itself.
Eagle Industries MBAV. This is pretty much the Eagle Industries Plate Carrier with Cummerbund. Main different is that the MBAV has sewn in soft armor. Not commonly used.
PACA Low Visibility Carrier. Used to carry Soft Armor when running a MBSS or RRV. Sometimes the SAPI plates are inserted into this as well.
Pouches:

Eagle Industries Single M4 Pouch. This holds two M4 mags. Double and triple M4 mag pouches have been seen but the Single M4 Pouch is the most common and the one that is issued via the FSBEII kit.
Eagle Industries Single M4 FB Pouch. This holds on M4 mag.
Eagle Industries Three Mag M4 Carrier. This is the mag pouch that fits three M4 mags across. It has MOLLE down the front of it.
Eagle Industries .45 FB Pouch. Single version only.
Eagle Industries Smoke Grenade Pouch
Eagle Industries Frag Grenade Pouch. Single only.
Eagle Industries 40MM Grenade Pouch. Single only.
Eagle Industries M249 Pouch
Eagle Industries 100 Round M249 Pouch
Eagle Industries M60 Pouch
Eagle Industries Flashbang Pouch
Eagle Industries IFAK/Med Pouch
Eagle Industries SEA MKII Pouch. Older versions are black, I believe the newer ones are CB.
Eagle Industries Gas Mask Pouch
Eagle Industries Pop Flare Pouch Up
Eagle Industries M9 Mag Pouch. Used for Multitools or knives.
Eagle Industries SABR Radio Pouch. These are rarely seen as the Saber radio isn’t often used anymore.
Eagle Industries Canteen Pouch. Often with the Soft Protective Insert as NVGs are stored within these.
Eagle Industries Admin Pouch with Light
Eagle Industries Admin Pouch Square Shaped
Eagle Industries Horizontal General Purpose Pouch
Eagle Industries Modular Assault Pack
Eagle Industries Hydration Carrier
Eagle Industries Slung Belt Catch
Allied Industries Modular Assault Pack
Allied Industries Admin with Light
Allied Industries Admin Square Shaped
Allied Industries Flashbang Pouch
Allied Industries MBITR pouch with Flap
CSM Gear Surefire Holster
Standard USMC IFAKs are also seen. I believe they are produced by Allied Industries, but I’m not 100% on this. They’re easy to find on eBay.
Belt Kit:

Eagle Industries MOLLE Warbelt. Best replica is the Flyee Right Angle belt with Suspenders.
Eagle Industries Duty Belt with Belt Pad
Eagle Industries Dive Belt Adaptor. Gives you MOLLE over the belt buckle I believe.
Allied Industries Suspenders. These are a Y design with a larger bit at the Y intersection.
Allied Industries Drop Leg. Square design, not available to civilians. Older version has OD mesh on the back, newer has CB. Real ones will go anywhere from $200-500.
Allied Industries Holster Adaptor. Connects to the Safariland strap to give a quick detach function as well as continuing to have the 2×2 spot of MOLLE on the belt.
Safariland 6004-56. Early on some were Black, 3 Color Desert. Most recently FDE is the most common. If you’re having trouble finding which one, choose the one for Colt 1911A1 without a Rail.
Serpas, I’d stray away from these. Yes, they are seen but they are less common and detract from the authenticity. If its all you’ve got and can afford, then go with it but it would be for more accurate to get a Safariland.
CSM Gear Roll Up Dump Pouch. This can be mounted on your vest but it’s more appropriate for your belt setup.
CSM Gear E & R Bag
Eagle Industries E & R Bag
A note on these fanny packs, both have been used. It seems that the Eagle Industries one has become more common as of late.
Pistol Lanyards are quite common. The issued and most common one is the Gemtech one in Black. More recently some Tan ones have been seen, but for a long time Black was issued.
Diamond Backtactical Entry Tool Holder.
Headgear:

MICH 2000. The 2001 or 2002 is VERY rarely seen. They do not use the standard USMC LWH.
Norotos Three Hole Mount. Chinstrap black or Coyote Brown. Goggle strap retainers in Coyote Brown. Sometimes tan and other times green.
Reversible Helmet Cover with hole for Norotos. Very rare, prices on eBay range from 150-200 for the helmet cover. I recommend getting a regular reversible and having it modified. In the second post I have more detailed pictures and info on these.
Oakley FSBEII A Frame Goggles in Tan. These have a fan, I’ve also heard that they blow for both airsoft and real use. They go for 150ish on eBay, not worth it.
ESS Profile NVG Goggles in Tan. I’ve got a pair of these, they’re alright.
Communication:

MSA Sordin Dual Communication Headset
Peltor Comtac 2s
TCI Liberator I and II depending on the era.
Radios are usually PRC 148 MBITRs with either blade or whip antennas.
Accessories:

SEA MKII HABD. This is only used on amphibious operations, its a mini bottle that holds around 2 or 3 minutes of air in it, giving the operator a chance to get to safety.
TFSS. This is a very rare item, it’s essentially an air bag. It uses a CO2 capsule to inflate a bag that will help keep a soldier afloat. Its usually OD or Black with a set of black beads along the top as a pull chord. This is another item that’s only used on amphibious operations.
Surefire G2 or other. G2s are definitely issued in Tan and are used in conjuction with the CSM Gear Holster. The other lights will be one of the ones listen that fit in this holster.
ASP Baton + Pouch. Pouch has been seen in Khaki or Coyote Brown. I believe its made by Eagle Industries but I’m not 100% on this.
Benchmade Knives. They’re issued in both a straight blade and folder version. Coyote Brown handle with black blade. The straightblade version is the Nivramus.
Inovo VIP Light. Seen semi often on the bits of MFR gear.
Chemlights. Used for marking cleared rooms, extraction points and other important things.
Flexcuffs
Gerber Multitool. These have been seen mounted on the straps on Safarilands or on belts. I believe the correct one is the Gerber DET 600 Model 07400. It’s kind of hard to know which is the exact one, but from what I’ve seen sold by the guys I’ve gotten FSBEII stuff from, that’s the one.
Allied Industries M4 3 Mag Bandoleer
CAT Tourniquet, pretty much every operator will have these. Even if not readily visible on their vest. It’s still quite common to see them strapped someplace on their gear, shoulders, MBITR pouches, extra MOLLE, wherever.
Carabiners
Patches
M40 Gas Mask. This is one of the issued ones, there are others.
Gloves:

Oakley SI Assault in Tan
Flight Gloves in Sage or Tan
Camelbak FROG Gloves
Hatch SOG L200 gloves in Tan
Outdoor Research Overlord Gloves. Short version seen in the fourth picture I posted up top on the first guy. Pricey gloves, haven’t heard much about them, they’re rare.
Operators choice quite a bit of the time, pick something that works for you.

[PKR]

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back to a cheerier note ... no offence intended

my replica lwh straps arrived so here they are with my comtacs and on my pig (angry birds)

i forgot to smile