Reliable airsoft gun

[Barlow]

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I've got an ICS M4 mate, I was at a night game on Saturday through to Sunday and it was absolutely ping down. The gun was soaked right through, it took a fair bashing when I was jumping over the dirt hills and stuff. Still firing like a dream though. In fact when I got back to the safe zone after the game I tipped my gun up and water poured out of it, still fired with no problems at all though.

[Delta]

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As people have said, I would recommend G&P. I have 2 now and have had no major issues. And even the small issues have been caused from me being an idiot, they wouldnt have happened if I didnt fiddle!

Have had 2 TM guns and they were good to start with but with more usage I found they started to get more and more problems. In the end I had one with a shredded gearset and another with the gearbox casing splitting in half and screwing the internals up! Due to this I now stay away from TM guns as much as I can (apart from their pistols and maybe the sopmod but thats out of your price range)

At the end of the day though, with every brand people get lemons. It really is just the luck of the draw really. You could get an absolutely amazing TM rifle, but at the same time you could get a god awful G&P. But in my experience there are fewer G&P Lemons than there are TM lemons (I take this from my friends experience and what ive heard from other forums)

[Fizzy]

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Someone said something about upgrading the TM gearboxes

The point is, they don't need it. Just leave them be, and they will run for ages, and be perfectly skirmishable. You want get some uber l33t rate of fire, you will only be doing 290fps but your hop will be win! And left like that it will just run and run. The only things you may need to consider are metal bushings and a stronger spring (if you want to use 0.25s, 290 may be a little low), but a TM gearbox certainly isn't too 'soft' for those things. That also means that you can have some confidence buying second hand, which will bring a lot of TM guns into your price range. And they might even have some better external put on them.

I don't trust ICS...

With a budget of £250, would you buy a TM M4 though?

[Coz]

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It's not bad advice either. Should nothing actually go wrong with it, then everything's fine, I think that was johnny's point. There are plenty of people with G&Ps that have done nothing, or simply changed the hop rubber and they've been perfectly reliable.

Should nothing actually go wrong with the JG,then everythings fine,But it can and does.
My point was the OP wants a reliable gun,whats the point in buying a gun that is best with bits of its gearbox changed when he would be better off buying a new gearbox for his existing gun and saving a shed load of money

There's enough recommendation here for G&P so there must be something in it. And FYI I don't own a G&P, I have a VFC (over budget for the OP) and have sold my CA Armalites including my CA CQB which I regret buying, I should have gone with the G&P as 2 of my team mates did.

If you look at my post again, i did say best thing to do is read reviews on the guns that people have recomended here INCLUDING the G&P.

if I can get more people to post on here and recomend he buys one of them cheap 2 tone market stall jobbies, would you go and get one because they was recomended by people you dont know?

[B.E.N.]

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You're just being silly now.

I'm a big advocate of physically comparing two guns before buying them, but it's pointless picking holes in the decent advice being given in here. Sure, it shouldn't be taken as gospel, but there's a lot of truth in it.

[Double 0 Jedi]

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Does this thread even need to exist ? I mean look on pretty much any forum, and ask the "what should I buy for £xxx" or "which is the most reliable ?"
The answer, inevitably, is Tokyo Marui!! In the short time I've been airsofting I know that if you ask which is the best ....TOKYO MARUI!!


Before you even ask the question

[Ian IWG]

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From personal experiance my King arms FAL has worked without fail for the last 8-9 months and I bought that second hand (I think it's about 2-21/2 years old), also my CYMA AK 18 months old (metal body) has been the same and I use that a hell of a lot more and it gets treated rough. But I always clean and check over after every game. But in saying that I have had 2 JG's that never went wrong a M733 that i sold to a mate and is still going after 3 years and a SIG552 that I sold on here a while ago both with no upgrades or mods bar deans connectors.

[wildething]

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Can i Ask what goes wrong with the sig is it the same thing or lots of different things. Id suggest replace the gear box, hop and fit a mosfet still cheaper than buying a new gun plus don't have to replace your mags.

[Fizzy]

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Can i Ask what goes wrong with the sig is it the same thing or lots of different things. Id suggest replace the gear box, hop and fit a mosfet still cheaper than buying a new gun plus don't have to replace your mags.

Maybe he just fancies a M4 and wants something that's going to be more reliable than his JG currently is...?

[The Keeper of Secrets]

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'I want a reliable gu-

Buy a TM.

'But I want one that won't bre-

Buy a TM.

'But that guy said ICS are bett-

Buy a TM.

'But it only fires at 280f-

Buy a TM.

See where I'm going with this?

[Fizzy]

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I want an Armalite with a metal body, and wont suffer barrel wobble for £250
Buy a T...
Oh!

[The Keeper of Secrets]

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Nah. I'd wager a TM surviving any G&P or CA. And with the money you save you can get a metal body. And a 1J spring if you really want to.

[Teddykiller]

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Nah. I'd wager a TM surviving any G&P or CA. And with the money you save you can get a metal body. And a 1J spring if you really want to.

Agreed, but G&P's generally these days are rather good, and simply chuck the awful hop rubber away and use a TM one and your good to go.

[The Keeper of Secrets]

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Agreed, but G&P's generally these days are rather good, and simply chuck the awful hop rubber away and use a TM one and your good to go.

Yes, that. The G&P gearboxes are very nice indeed, but the rubber and the chamber need to be binned and replaced with TM/Systema or whatever else you fancy.

[B.E.N.]

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Yes, that. The G&P gearboxes are very nice indeed, but the rubber and the chamber need to be binned and replaced with TM/Systema or whatever else you fancy.

Chambers been fine on the last few batches, just the rubber is made of a greasy feeling, almost PVC type rubber, and the barrels are generally very dirty, probably to over lubrication of the cylinder/piston.

Other issues are some over-tightening of fixings in compensation for previous complaints that they were under tightened.