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systema PTW SOPMOD
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29 December, 2011, 13:44
Re: Wearing British Army insignia in airsoft?
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Why you say that? Want my regimental number, red discharge book, list of my units? Also I agree it seems the civies have the biggest problem with it all, normally beacause they open there mouths without knowing bugger all about it. Actually sometimes this subject and some comments totally grips me sometimes.
probably should have specified, thought it was clear I meant if the person wearing them is claiming to have earnt them when they haven't
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29 December, 2011, 13:47
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Berets I have no issue with, if cadet forces can wear them, why not airsofters?
it depends which berets, green lids etc shouldnt be worn and, whilst the pongo cadets dont have to earn their lids I know RMC certainly used to have to
craphats yes no worries, but i think berets that designate units can cause insult to some
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29 December, 2011, 14:26
Re: Wearing British Army insignia in airsoft?
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it depends which berets, green lids etc shouldnt be worn and, whilst the pongo cadets dont have to earn their lids I know RMC certainly used to have to
craphats yes no worries, but i think berets that designate units can cause insult to some
Everyone in the British army/RM/RAF earn their beret...dont think the RN do because they have a generic beret for all ships/trades. All SuTs at Catterick have to earn their beret, all REME air techs have to earn their smurf berets. The list is endless. The only specific beret that you actually have to do a specialist/out of role course for is the RM green beret. Anyone attached to RIFLES/16AA/SAS/Lancs/SCOTS etc can wear the headress of the unit that they are attached to.
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29 December, 2011, 16:13
Re: Wearing British Army insignia in airsoft?
Hmmmmm..
Interesting views/opinions around this topic. One observation I have is that I have seen more examples of ex-military "walting it up" than the civvy.
"when I was a sniper in (insert conflict here) you wouldn't have the the sniper tape on your "gat" like that etc etc"
(you get my drift)
The game attracts many characters and we can all differ in what we see as an enjoyable experience. Some see the militaria as an essential part - some see it as a tool and some don't want to use any part of it (how they carry mags is a source of interest though)!
I don't agree with the argument that if you haven't earned it you can't wear it. I also don't see it as an insult if there being worn either. The reality is that it's a game with no significant military relevance; If ex-forces (or even serving) get the hump than as a previous poster (eloquently) put it "maybe I need to get over myself". Also I don't need to hear the braying of some serving or ex-serving squaddie on how warry he is - he's not in the barracks so it's no way to act
In my experience I would just observe then continue to find my targets.
Not a big deal to me I'm afraid.
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The type of person who was "walting" is probably being shunned anyway
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29 December, 2011, 17:32
Re: Wearing British Army insignia in airsoft?
There will always be two views on this, I disagree with it, but keep it to myself unless the character flaunts it. I don't let my sons wear berets because their hair is to long, if you wear it, you have your haircut young man!
I was AAC, and have no problems with the powder puff being worn, the AAC has cadet units with the beret so I agree. Always makes me laugh when I see SAS berets worn, because the SAS don't wear them out of camp! I do know marines who get extremely mad though, and force the opponent to remove the green lid
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29 December, 2011, 18:28
Re: Wearing British Army insignia in airsoft?
You know what fellas, if it's on the Airsoft field and it's obvious you're just doing it for the look and authenticity then I highly doubt ANYONE will blame you for it.
If on the other hand you go out of your way to fool people into believing that you just earned a maroon beret or whatever then yes it's taking the piss.
I bet 99% of serving members couldn't give a toss if they saw someone on the Airsoft field wearing insignia who 'Hadn't earned it'.
It's a free country - so flippin what
Just keep it to the field and it's totally fine in my opinnion. Some people need to grow up.
There was a case a few years back where an old guy caused uproar because he marched with veterans during a ceremony wearing SAS insignia, because he told his misus he was an ex sas soldier so kept the lie alive
That's unacceptable, but he had his reasons.
Airsofters - if you're gunna wear insignia then do it properly! Tidy and accurate
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20 January, 2012, 21:46
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As Ex-forces too i share the replies that if u hav'nt earned it dont wear it views, with regarding a earlier post about TRF's Queen Regs state that only Regular, TA and Reservists have the right to wear them. Cadet forces and their instructors where not allowed to have them.
I personally only wear my zap patch on my kit as it is unique to myself and the Country i fought for.
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21 January, 2012, 00:43
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We dont even have a TRF...well, we do but no one ever wears it except the two lizards on the recruiting posters.
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22 January, 2012, 19:23
Hey All
Thought I'd have my say now. I agree with bravotwozero most serving personnel won't have a problem with insignia being worn on the airsoft field. They should be proud that people want to make a loadout of their regiment. I'm a serving member of Her Majesty's Royal Marines and I think it's great the amount of effort people put into there loadout.
However this kit should only be worn for airsofting and nothing else. Servicemen/women get annoyed when civvies claim to be in the forces and thats where the problems start.
As for Queens Regs, nowadays they are there as a guide due to them being written a while ago.
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22 January, 2012, 19:48
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I personally dont have a problem with it. as long as people dont go round bragging that they've actually served in that regiment or been to a war zone, when they havent. airsoft is all about having fun which is why i have a few comedy patches for my multicam. but i can understand why some people are strict about these kind of things.
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22 January, 2012, 20:17
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Most of my combat jackets and shirts have RMC shoulder badges and para wings/ISAF badges, but thats how they came to me from my mate who is a serving RMC. He dosnt have a problem with me wearing them as they are, BUT if I was to go and buy a green beret with a globe and laurel cap badge and wear that skirmishing, I reckon he would kick my lilly white arse into next year. Rank slips are something else that he isnt happy with being worn by those that havent ' earnt them'. Having said that, I dont go out to portray a RMC. I just like UK gear, my main load out is '70's based N.I era. I do get asked quite a bit if Im ex/serving forces and not just whilst skirmishing for some reason, but I always stress that despite my wanting to, I have never ever been a member of HM Armed forces.
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23 January, 2012, 15:45
Re: Wearing British Army insignia in airsoft?
As someone who has had a brief brush with the TA (Member of the royal engineers but trained with the OTC) whilst at uni, and decided that at this point I do not have the time to concentrate on a degree in engineering and get in regular exercises/training nights, various bits of kit ended up being dished out, resulting in me having a full set of PLCE in addition to the one I was issued with. I kept my C95 uniform for a couple of reasons:
1 - It's a good memento
2 - Dirt cheap uniform for airsofting
3 - Always a good fallback fancy dress option
I've kept my beret as a memento of the good times I had, however I would NEVER wear it with the rest of the uniform - why? I'm not serving, I don't need to, especially when airsofting. As my loadout is based on the rule of cool, there is simply no need for me to wear patches. Airsoft is a game, as several others have said I like that I get to do all of the fun bits of going on exercise without having to worry about maps, warning orders, sleep deprivation and being on stag in sub zero temperatures or torrential rain.
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24 January, 2012, 06:36
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This is an iteresting topic, i remember turning up for my first airsoft game and seeing a chap in British Deserts with an engineers flash on his arm and thought he might be a serving or ex serving member of that unit the reason i thought that was because he wore his gear the right way and did the uniform justice, turned out he had never served after i spoke to him. I have seen guys wearing british uniforms with flashes and para wings ect who looked like a bag of shit and obviously didnt have a clue how it should be worn.. i just chuckled to myself. Anyway Airsoft doesnt belong to the forces , in my eyes its a bit of fun for like minded chaps to let off a bit of steam every now and again, I served for 15 years and dont wear my old combats or insignias because i dont see airsoft the same way as i did being stuck in the middle of salisbury plain in mid february freezing my nuts off in my old unit. I do however like some of the gear people wear, some of the walts look the dogs bollocks when they wear the gear , some of them would put the regular chaps to shame!!!, anyways wear what you like no one really cares as long as you are having a laugh, and remember everyone ends up at the regen point in the end!
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21 February, 2012, 12:31
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I had posted in another forum about a similar topic,
As an ex-Bootneck myself, I would not be best pleased to see any airsofters (well, in fact anyone for that matter) running about thinking their something their not by wearing the Green Beret of the Royal Marines, that hasn't earned the right to wear it.
I'm sure you've seen the ads, "99.99% need not apply"
On the other hand, wearing a Beret WITHOUT any form of cap badge, I feel is perfectly acceptable.
Just my tuppence worth ....
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6 April, 2012, 17:42
I couldn't give a monkeys where my battalions flashes cap badges etc if you want them that bad you can bloody where mine!
I for one wouldn't never fight or die for it! I reserve that for my mates!
My major gripe is bloody cylumes stuck down molle! Who does that! And sf and half the infantry don't where issue kit!
However as mentioned before I do like spending my day in and out of dead zones laughing at people's attempts and muttering lizard under my breath!
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