Is this legal

[bricktop]

I have just been asked to sell to a under 18yo cos his local site is selling rifs to the parents of under 18 skirmishers this surely cannot b legal? Any one have any opinions

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MEMBERSHIP

Background to membership

As of the 1st October 2007 the importation, manufacture and sale of realistic imitation firearms is banned in the UK. The sale of imitation firearms is also banned to those under 18 years of age. Both are under the provisions of the 'Violent crime reduction act', or VCRA. The potential of having all the replicas we use banned from sale would have been devastating to the airsoft industry. Some members of the airsoft community fought for an exemption for airsoft and (above all expectations of those used to dealing with the government on similar matters) successfully negotiated a specific defense for those partaking of airsoft skirmishing.
To avail yourself of the specific defense, you must be a member of a skirmish site the carries public liability insurance. Xsite airsoft fulfill all the criteria, so in line with government guidance we are offering site membership.

What membership does for you

Site membership gives you the ability to continue to purchase RIF's and supplys you with all the backup you need for importing etc. We back up our members and have been complicite in assisting many members with matters pertinant to the law.

We are running 2 forms of membership. Full and junior. A full member must be 18 or over, a junior membership is for those between 11 and 17 years old.

Both full and junior members get a phot ID card, which will be available for collection at the Xsite shop.

A full membership allows you to purchase RIFs and you can also if you wish go onto the UKARA data base. In order to do this you have to fill out another form. Site membership doesn't automatically mean you are on the data base. The UKARA data base is the easiest way to purchase RIFs remotely and you will find some retailers will not sell to you unless you are registered on it. The data is safe, no retailer has access to the information except a check on your name, post code and membership number to verify your membership of Xsite.

Please see below for junior membership.

Criteria

In line with Home Office guidance we are only offering membership to genuine skirmishers. You must have played at the site a minimum of 3 times over a period of more than 2 months. For ease of administration and the ambiguity of the number of weeks in a month, Xsite have set the level at 9 weeks. You can play as many games as you like in the 2 month period, but must complete the minimum in more than the time. We also make a qualitative judgment of the applicant as to their suitability to be an Xsite member. If we view an individual as presently unsuitable, we will place them on a probationary period of an appropriate length then re-evaluate their suitability. Membership is not guaranteed or a given right, even if a player has attended the required number of skirmishes.

Xsite have 2 sites, 'Xsite Lane End' and 'Xsite The Orchard', you can mix and match the visits to either of the sites, all games at either site count towards your membership.

Junior membership

Nobody under 18 can purchase any sort of replica, realistic or not and that includes junior members. However, we can sell a RIF to the parent of a junior member. The sale has to be face to face, so no internet or telephone sales, both the parent and the junior member must be present and it's the parents decision the sale takes place, not the junior members. We are selling the RIF to the parent or guardian of the junior member for the purposes of airsoft skirmishing, the junior member must therefore satisfy the defense requirements.

Criteria for junior membership is exactly the same a s full membership.

Junior members cannot go onto the UKARA data base, so don't even bother looking at their website, downloading the forms or contacting them.

Cost

Xsite membership is £15 a year

How to sign up

You sign up for membership at the Xsite shop.

On your first game at the site you fill out a membership form, we hold the form in a pending file and verify every date you visit the site. On your third visit in more than two months you can sign up. At that point the membership fee is payable and we take your picture for your card. You will need ID when you sign up to verify your address and who you are.

We print the membership cards in-house, ane once printed they are available for collection from the shop. We don't post out cards having had too many go missing in the post.

Membership forms can be collected from the site.

Very Important

Membership of Xsite is not a right, it is a privalidge. We ultimately decide if we want to put our name against an individual who has completed the minimum criteria. We reserve the right to revoke membership at any time for any reason we deem appropriate. Please act responsibly at all time in regard to airsoft skirmishing or your membership will be in jeapoardy.

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The 'United Kingdom Airsoft Retailers Association' has put in place a data base to enable their members easier verification of genuine players, mainly for distance, or internet sales. as a site we did have several issues about the data base, but they have all thankfully been resolved and Xsite are now members of the scheme.

we will be holding a stock of UKARA forms, any player wishing to go onto the data base for distance sales, see a marshal at any game or email the site.

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[V.A.K]

Re: Is this legal

no it bloody well isn't the parent isn't playing the game ergo they are not a skirmisher therefore they cannot buy a black gun but it does show the level of intelligence at this site since they clearly cannot spell.

[jagillham]

Re: Is this legal

In a word no.

Your buyer must be over 18 and a skirmisher. Not one person over 18 and one is a skirmisher...

You can sell a 'two tone' to a non skirmishing adult, and nothing to the minor.

[madwelshman]

Re: Is this legal

nope... the buyer has to have a defence to the vcr bill... not his/her child.

They as adults with no valid defence are allowed to buy if's not rifs

[V.A.K]

Re: Is this legal

Junior members cannot go onto the UKARA data base, so don't even bother looking at their website, downloading the forms or contacting them.

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sort of says it all really they don't want people contacting ukara because they're doing something illegal and don't want to be caught doing it

[cool-breeze87]

Re: Is this legal

No this isn't legal, what the hell is going on, over the last few days there have been so many things posted on here that are potentially damaging to the sport and this one takes the cake. We need to do something about X Site because it's this kind of behaviour that is going to be the most damaging to the sport.

[baddbaz]

Re: Is this legal

this is definetly illegal and needs to be reported to ukara who can take action against this site asap

[bricktop]

Re: Is this legal

I didn't think it was legal but they must think they have a case to openly post it on they're site

[V.A.K]

Re: Is this legal

No this isn't legal, what the hell is going on, over the last few days there have been so many things posted on here that are potentially damaging to the sport and this one takes the cake. We need to do something about X Site because it's this kind of behaviour that is going to be the most damaging to the sport.

i suggest forming a lynch mob failing than reporting him to ukara and getting him taken off the scheme and contacting the police because i'm pretty sure he can get a £5000 fine or prison time for this

[V.A.K]

Re: Is this legal

I didn't think it was legal but they must think they have a case to openly post it on they're site

they don't they're just greedy and the little kids parents aren't going to report them since it keeps there kids happy, xsite won't stop doing it because they're earning money through sales, this is pure selfishness and greed.

[cool-breeze87]

Re: Is this legal

Also they'll be making a load of extra money off the guns as they can only be bought through them. This actually makes me want to punch something now...

[V.A.K]

Re: Is this legal

Also they'll be making a load of extra money off the guns as they can only be bought through them. This actually makes me want to punch something now...

thanking and liking my posts may calm you down either that legal action against these idiots

[bricktop]

Re: Is this legal

The thing is the parents can just buy 2tones if they want they're kids to have guns this site has no excuse its just a bit of paint is that worth risking jail and the sport it's self

[V.A.K]

Re: Is this legal

The thing is the parents can just buy 2tones if they want they're kids to have guns this site has no excuse its just a bit of paint is that worth risking jail and the sport it's self

yeah but the kids don't want two tones, so in order to boost sales they do think because it's more money in liam lagan's pocket he's the owner of xsite i think.

[madwelshman]

Re: Is this legal

they only sell ics and G&G... not real airsoft guns, thats probably how they are getting round it