British Forces Weaponry

[Smithles]

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Wow, anal much?

Surely all you need is one WWII era pic of a sand coloured Sten (that we have) and you have to admit that yes, some were painted tan.

Anyway, does it matter? It looks awesome, I'm sure they would have painted them had they been allowed to/had the paint, and it's not going to get anyone arrested for historical inaccuracy. Even if it's not historically correct (which we now know it is anyway..) it's a cool idea to carry through to fruition. /rant

p.s. I think there may be more history police in airsoft than in the actual military

[No1_sonuk]

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Except... That's not an airsoft Sten...

[Smithles]

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Except... That's not an airsoft Sten...

But this is an airsoft forum.

[No1_sonuk]

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But this is an airsoft forum.

Indeed, which begs the question: Why was it posted here in the first place?

And it should also be noted Gadge isn't just an airsofter.

[Gadge Europa]

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Exactly, i'm an airsofter, military historian and re-enactor.

In military history/re-enactment circles, no one example isnt enough to prove something was done as a rule. It's far too easy to fake things and re-write history unless you've got a good sample of photographic and recorded evidence.

A classic example is drop leg tank holsters. There is *one* famous pic of a para officer wearing one at Arnhem (one man out of a division of more than 6000) but its been picked up on by re-enactors and WWII airsofters and copied so much you'd be forgiven for thinking they were standard issue

It all depends on your field of interest really. Mine happens to be WWII and post/cold war Brit kit.

No ones saying it's not cool, im just saying it's not very likely. It would seem from chatting to guys who *really* know their stuff on another forum that painted stens were an australian thing.

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Indeed, which begs the question: Why was it posted here in the first place?
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Because surely the whole point of RIFs is that they imitate the real deal and you need to be able to show the real deal for a sensible comparison?

[golightly]

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Because surely the whole point of RIFs is that they imitate the real deal and you need to be able to show the real deal for a sensible comparison?

Exactly

[burner208]

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Exactly

And thats why I'm here. Theres experts on this board that have taken the time to do the research for proper equipment loads. I find this interesting plus I have a ton of live weapons from including a large WWII and machine gun collection that I will gladly document for anybody who is looking to build a correct replica.

My real hope is to find a "real" airsoft sten. Something built from a parts kit and is close enough to feel real. I'd love to find a way to have a "slide in" kit for mine that would be triggered by the factory sear but I'm guessing thats a long shot.

[wattsy]

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i hope deactivated weapons count in this thread too :D

tm/ cybergun, thompson m1a1 (iv got a m1928 upper for it too)
1943 lee enfield #4 mk1
1944 Bren mk2
iv also got a kjw m1911 and a we browing hi-power but no photos of them at the moment.

just ignore the m3. now im wonderng, next purchase, airsoft sten (dont want a mk2 though :S) or a deactivated mk5??

[burner208]

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I wish dewats were allowed here. You have no idea how lucky you are to be able to have them. Around here what you would call a dewat is a NFA item. A dewat machine gun is extremly rare and extremly expensive because you can still F1 them and make them functional. If they were not registered in 68 its a major felony. Most have already been converted and the legal ones that havent are just as expensive as a functional machine gun

To have a sten your looking at around 6 grand for a decent functional one and I've never seen a dewat. A functional bren would be 30-40k Last bren dewat I saw was high 20's....for essentially what you have in your bed room. US NFA laws suck....


Take comfort in that laws aside there are people who could make that bren run again... Early sten dewats are as easy as cutting a weld on the barrel nut, swapping in a new barrel/bolt and your good to go. Not saying that you should do that legally wise but there not totally dead

[jssmitty96]

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heres my british weapons hope you like them most parts are rs on the sa80 and thats a genuine eotech on the shotty

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[No1_sonuk]

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My real hope is to find a "real" airsoft sten. Something built from a parts kit and is close enough to feel real. I'd love to find a way to have a "slide in" kit for mine that would be triggered by the factory sear but I'm guessing thats a long shot.

That'd be illegal here in the UK.

The closest you could get here would be a scratch-built GBB. And then you'd have to be careful about the "easily modifyable" issue.
e.g. Brocock air cartridge revolvers were made illegal here because they could be "easily modified" to fire live rounds.
With a mechanism as simple as the Sten, you'd have to be careful.

[Gadge Europa]

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if you're still interested in the sten paint issue Burner it would seem that there is a pic of *one* slightly camoed one at Arnhem but its a lot more likely any painted stuff comes from rhodesian stocks as there SF painted pretty much everything.

So like i say, cool camo job but if you're going to use it for WWII games maybe overspray the jerboa... that makes it look *really* modern.

[Jay8]

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Colt 6933 11.5
KAC RAS rails
LMT sopmod stock
MaTech BUIS
TA01NSN and Aimpoint M68 cco (comp m4)

And that is relevant to the thread how?

There's an M4 thread for generic armalites, cool or not.

Lovely guns though jssmitty - What parts on the L85 are real and which aren't - it looks great? I really want to get my RS Surefire on mine but I can't really find a place to machine it properly.

[jssmitty96]

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Lovely guns though jssmitty - What parts on the L85 are real and which aren't - it looks great? I really want to get my RS Surefire on mine but I can't really find a place to machine it properly.

quite abit of it is the rs parts apart from the actuall body and barell not gunna say where they are from though. basicly all the added extra's are genuine down to as small as the ladder rail covers and every scope pictured is rs apart from the one on the l115a3 which i am getting a leupold for it this weekend

[No1_sonuk]

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if you're still interested in the sten paint issue Burner it would seem that there is a pic of *one* slightly camoed one at Arnhem but its a lot more likely any painted stuff comes from rhodesian stocks as there SF painted pretty much everything.

So like i say, cool camo job but if you're going to use it for WWII games maybe overspray the jerboa... that makes it look *really* modern.

I should hope he doesn't use his live, 9mm Sten for airsoft games!